Subject: Re [What do YOU think?????.......] (fwd) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 230906 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org> To: emfguru@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 03:25:57 From: marjlundquist@usa.net To: rbeavers@llion.org Subject: Re: [What do YOU think?????.......] Roy, I think there is going to be an uphill battle to convince people of this, if they keep on top of the current scientific literature. I have read reports that a vast section of Antarctic ice shelf is poised to break off (this shelf has been shrinking in size--that is, melting --for some time now). When it happens, this will probably be reported in many major newspapers. On Friday, April 24, 1998, I attended a lecture by an atmospheric scientist who had spent part of December, 1997, all of January, 1998, and a little of February, 1998, in Antarctica, at the South Pole. He said the month of January, while he was there, was the cloudiest ever reported; he empasized that the clouds were of supercooled water vapor and not the ice crystals that he was there to study. To me, a melting ice shelf and atmospheric moisture in the form of water instead of ice is an indication of an atmospheric temperature that is elevated, compared with temperatures of a decade or two ago. This is occurring over the continent of Antarctica, which means it is unlikely to be a phenomenon caused by local human activity (because in the vast Antarctic landscape, the human presence is comparatively miniscule). For these reasons, I think anybody trying to claim that global warming is NOT occurring will have to distort the facts. Of course, they will probably fool those people who are not accustomed to thinking for themselves, and those who do not read scientific reports. - Marjorie P.S. On the other hand, there have been past major temperature shifts over large geographic areas that lasted many decades, then reversed. We cannot rule out the possibility that we are seeing something of this kind occurring at present, though such changes as the polar ozone holes cause me to suspect that the changes we are seeing may be unique in the earth's history. But once again, we know there are very long cycles--maybe 10,000 years in length, such as the ice ages--that do occur, and there is always the possibility that we are observing something that is unique in the records of HUMAN experience, but not geologically unique at all, and perhaps not unknown to early human beings. (Remember the body of the "ice man" that was found in the Italian Alps a few years ago.) All that we can conclude with assurance, I think, is that the next few decades are going to be warmer than most of the twentieth century was. =================================================== rbeavers@llion.org wrote: > Hi everybody: > > I invite all of you to send me your commentary on the following..... > Note: The story originally was carried in the New York Times.... > > Roy Beavers (EMFguru) > > ************************************************* > > 11:24 PM ET 04/25/98 > > Oil companies plan campaign on climate fears-paper > > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. oil companies and conservative > policy research groups are planning a campaign to change public > perception about the fears of global warming, according to > Sunday's New York Times. > The Times reported that an informal group of industry > representatives was drawing up a possible multi-million dollar > offensive to convince the public that fear of global warming and > the treaties to curb it are based on bad science.......... Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html