Subject: ElectroShield (Crosby).. Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 122558 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers"To: emfguru -------------------------------------------------- Hi everybody: ..........Guru often receives questions which he feels he is not qualified to answer...... Such is the case with most of Mark's questions below..... So, I am passing this out onto the EMF-L list for the many people we have - who are more qualified (in a technical sense) - to reply.... However, I do want to make two general observations about Mark's questions, because in a very real sense - they typify what I believe are some important "general public" misunderstandings that need to be emphasized.... (1) The information Mark supplies below suggests to me that he is being overly reliant upon the "readings" he obtains from whatever device (gauss-meter??) he may be using..... .......If I may suggest an analogy: With the instrument that he is using ... and given the present **limited** state of knowledge we have about the health effects of electromagnetic radiation (at ALL frequencies); Mark is much like the man who is looking through a key-hole into a dimly lit room and trying - not only to see "everything" that is THERE ... but also - to READ THE BIBLE that is on the table in the back of the room.....!! He is not likely to get the full, satisfying answers that he seeks -- is he???? (2) However, Mark makes a good point with (what I perceive to be) his healthy skepticism about the claims of some of the EMF mitigation devices he is "trying out." In good conscience, I can only reinforce that skepticism..... Here on the EMF-L list, we TRY to be as scientifically sound as we can (both in describing or diagnosing the problem, and) in recommending any corrective actions.... Up to this point, the only "corrective action" that seems to justify a **HIGH** degree of 'scientific' credibility is ** avoidance **.... We say that NOT because we think it is the only remedy ... but because it seems to warrant the highest scientific "grade" of the various remedies currently being pushed -- some of which, might be fairly described as, "no better than snake oil." Cheerio.... Roy Beavers (EMFguru) roy@emfguru.com .....It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness..... NEW!!! Website... http://emfguru.com ...................People are more important than profits................. DO YOU KNOW OF OTHERS WHO SHOULD BE ON THIS LIST??? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 09:21:22 -0700 From: Theta Sigma To: roy@emfguru.com Subject: ElectroShield Hi Roy - I'm Mark Crosby in Venice, CA. And I'd like to reduce EMF exposure at my home as much as I can. Would you please comment on: 1. mu-metal shielding (and other methods?) in computer monitors. The third-party retrofitting that used to be done seems like it might be a big help. 2. ElectroSheild (esona.com) and (https://www11.secure-website.net/~esona/affil_ssl.html) My "take" on their products is that they are lacking third-party testing and the results seem to be mixed (some volunteers actually had higher "health risks" with the use of the product indicating, perhaps, induced stress from the testing). 3. The usefulness of TriField meters such as offered by Real Goods (see http://www.trifield.com/EMF_meter.htm) . I have one that is supposed to show readings of: a. magnetic 0-3 and 0-100 (milligauss) range b. Electric from 0-100 range (kilovolts/meter) c. Radio/Microwave from 0.1 to 1 (mW/cm2) This meter shows that I am regularly exposed to magnetic energy around 15 milligauss from the computer monitors I use. "Electric" is negligible and microwave also negligible. Where I sleep there are no readings. Naturally, I stay away from the microwave in the kitchen while it is in use since that shows levels at even 7 feet away of .3 mW/cm2. I'd appreciate your opinion about the health risks of those levels, and the effectiveness of the meter itself. Also, I keep fruits and other foods out on the counter by the microwave. Any comments on that too? I also live nearby a 10Kv power line - but fortunately, the meter shows little magnetic effect except near the larger appliances (fridge) and near the power box. As I walk up to the power pole the meter starts to show readings around 2-3 milligauss but nearer the house and where I sleep the levels are mostly low. Television shows readings of .5 milligauss where I sit about 11 feet away. Thanks very much. -=mark=- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + It's not the goal you seek but the path you take which brings happiness + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.emfguru.com