Subject: High Voltage Direct Current Transmission lines (Bruce).. Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 234915 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers"To: emfguru -------------------------------------------------- Margi: .........."High voltage - direct current - transmission lines - and BURIED in the ground...... This is not our typical scenario..... Nor is there much research existent on that scenario..... Buried lines do tend to (Not reduce) - but **concentrate** the "magnetic field." Of course - if you read carefully some of the material posted on the guru's website - you will see that the "magnetic field" may not be the key to assessing the likelihood of adverse health consequences...... We just don't know. That research has not been done - not well..... Likewise, the research on "direct current" has not been done..... But, you are talking about a LOT of current there - and the potential for "induction" could be high...... Induction - the transfer of the current into the ground or other more conductive objects in the path of the field (like a pipeline, etc)..... Anybody who might tell you, "It is safe, don't worry about it...." -- just doesn't understand the EMF problem. He doesn't know the uncertainties that surround the risks that are being passed on to the people of the world by the sudden explosion (over the past 25-50 years) of non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation in our surroundings..... In other words, he doesn't know what he is talking about..... So, your project poses mostly questions and uncertainties in an aspect of the EMF problem that has not been studied..... (You should study the "stray currents" and "ground currents" material that is on my website. Look in the "EMF ??" file.... Dr. Gerard Hyland has also written - in that same file - an important piece about the impact (biologically) of the "coherent" effect that is present in ALL man-made electricity..... I have recently received a request from a foreign government to see if his paper could be translated into another language for their use.....!!) I would certainly treat your project with caution..... If it is going to produce adverse health effects, they might not be recognized for 10 to 30 years..... That is just the truth of the matter about this damnable EMF health risk scenario...... It makes it easy for the "vested interests" to bully their way through - build the lines - then let the next generation worry about it..... Our governments ALL seem to have adopted that strategy, too.....!!! Let the next administration worry about it.....!! If more of the public were well informed on the risks inherent in this kind of a public policy, I don't for a minute believe that the public would allow it to continue.... I don't really know what your other options might be there - but, if "I" could, I would fight the project as you describe it ... and force (perhaps through the courts) other options - away from residences and school grounds - to be considered..... You may get some better suggestions from others on this list. I am posting it for everybody on the EMF-L group..... (I know it is hard to bring this about - but you should not allow the "quotes" of Moulder to be decisive in the matter!! He doesn't know the answers either.... But he can be counted on to give the answers that support the power company..... That is his past record....!! We know him. The industry regularly uses him in court cases (and the like) for that purpose..... And has for years. I don't think he has any real credibility in **true** scientific circles. He is well known for his tendency to ignore any scientific evidence (particularly the epidemiology) that contradicts HIS thesis. And that is all he has - a thesis about the EMF realities..... Lots of people do.....!! And many of the others ... enjoy a higher degree of acceptance among those scientists who are ACTUALLY DOING THE RESEARCH than does John Moulder..... Perhaps you should contact Dr. Neil Cherry of New Zealand, for a more current - more balanced analysis....) (Also, Hydro Quebec has never shown any concern for public safety about the EMF risks in Canada ... I can't imagine that they have changed their stripes, just because they are now in Australia.....!!!) The bottom line on your case seems to be that the "bullies" are going to continue to "bully" as long as they can get away with it..... That is the way bullies are!!! Whether in The U.S., Canada or Australia ... or Sweden......!!! Cheerio.... Roy Beavers (EMFguru) roy@emfguru.com .....It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness..... NEW!!! Website... http://emfguru.com ...................People are more important than profits................. DO YOU KNOW OF OTHERS WHO SHOULD BE ON THIS LIST??? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:53:19 +1000 From: Help Yourself Healing To: roy@emfguru.com Subject: High Voltage Direct Current Transmission lines Hi Roy This is a query from a Residents Action Group in Australia, where the first underground link in the national electricity grid, 'Directlink', is being 'fast tracked' through our township of Mullumbimby, and our Byron Shire, Hydro Quebec and ABB Sweden are the forces behind our de-regulated State Power Utility NorthPower. We have been questioning the wisdom of not 'prudently avoiding' our town (the line passes near our High School,under the recreation grounds and Skate Park, in the road reserves near houses and commercial areas) since last October. Our local Council has felt powerless in the face of this Power company which is its own consent authority, so we have been forced to take legal challenges into our own hands. Our problem is that there is not much research that we can find on the effects of high voltage DC on health. NorthPower have presented Moulder's Q&A's on Static magnetic fields to allay our fears! To make the situation even more difficult, this project is th first commercial application of this new technology, developed by ABB Sweden, called HVDC Light, outside of Gotland, Sweden where it was developed and implemented for the first time June 1999! Our project - the upgrading of our local substation with this new switching technology, which converts AC to DC and the laying of 6 transmission cables through our Shire was commenced about the same time! So there is no research data on how it will affect us. The buried cabels are estimated to have a 100mG reading at ground level, diminishing to 1 mG 7 metres on either side We are particularly alarmed that these HVDC cables will pass through part of our Shire along the railway reserve in galvanised steel troughs (at the suggestion of the Sate Rail authority, who would not allow the cables to be buried along the rail reserve. Not only are these cables accessible by any curious child with a tyre lever - the lids of these truoghs are held on by thin metal straps! - but there is concern about what would happen if a train derailed, a more common ocurrence these days. There is no estimate given for the mG readings from the troughs. The cables will carry 80kVin each pair, The Converter Station will have a capacity to operate at 180mW. Most of the cable has been laid already despite our efforts to get them to inform us properly , and our requests for them to re-route around the town,before making it a 'fait accompli'...but you know how these companies operate: Keep the public in the dark, and deal with their concerns on an individual basis (divide and conquer). Switch on is scheduled for June 2000. Our barrister has requested any evidence on detrimental health effects... are you able to help us, or pint us in the right direction? Even though we have no proof of danger, the bullying tactics employed by NorthPower, have really aroused our suspicions, and there is an overwhelming feeling among the community that something is really wrong. We feel as if we are being used as guinea pigs, and our rights are being trampled over in the power companies' lust for the dollar. If you, or anyone, can help us in any way we would be very grateful. OUR SITUATION IS URGENT, AS TIME IS FAST RUNNING OUT. With thanks, Margi Bruce (on behalf of the Residents Action Group) Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.emfguru.com