Subject: Induction cookers and EMR?? )Schrecker).. Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 040147 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers"To: emfguru -------------------------------------------------- This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFA2D1.E724B3B0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 Content-ID: .........I am familiar with the magnetic (induction) stoves cited below, but so far as I know - no research about their safety viz EMF health concerns has ever been produced. It is conceivable that they are safer than the "resistance" type burners that have been used on the standard electric stove-top for years..... I have had concerns about the standard electric stove (and oven) for some time ... but, again, the researchers (epidemiologists) have not studied them for possible ill-effects...... To my knowledge...... During the RAPID study, one of my "questions" about the strategy they adopted was: **why** did they decide that no more epidemiology was needed???? That, in fact, was the decision. They wanted to place all of their money on toxicology (lab-research)......??? The whole effort seemed to be directed at finding the biological "mechanism" to the exclusion of all else...... If they failed in that - then they were in a position to say (as they implicitly did, in their final report) that the epidemiolological findings were "unsupported" by the lab results??? (NOT good science - but perhaps good politics.....!!!) The epidemiology is still the best evidence that we have in the EMF saga - that "we have a problem." And, most of that strong, consistent evidence is research about the 60 Hz problem ... not the RF or MW..... Electric stoves and ovens was one of the exposures I wondered about in connection with breast cancer...... But, when "the $$$$$$ decide that they don't want to find out" the potential dangers ... the public has no real input into the "public safety" equation???!! I have no answer for the question below..... So far as I know, it is another one of those "answers not wanted" by an establishment that prefers NOT to know..... Sorry...... (Anybody else know of research on this - not "speculation" - research.....) Roy Beavers (EMFguru) roy@emfguru.com .....It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness..... NEW!!! Website... http://emfguru.com ...................People are more important than profits................. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:48:19 +0200 From: Marius Schrecker To: rbeavers@llion.org Subject: Induction cookers and EMR Dear Mr. Beavers, I was given your mail address by Neil Cherry who felt that you may know something about the potential dangers of EMR from the new induction or 'magnetic' cooktops. These induce heat in ferrous pans by producing a strong local alternating magnetic field under the pans bottom. As far as I understand the dangers, the question seems to be how local the field is (they are supposed to be around 90% efficient) and the frequency of the alternation. Could you be so kind as to mail me back if you have any data on these or know anybody else who may be able to help. Many thanks Marius Schrecker (Norway) ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFA2D1.E724B3B0-- Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.emfguru.com