Subject: (Philips) Re A warped view of safety...... (fwd) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 060355 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@mail.llion.org> To: emfguru@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- .........DO YOU KNOW OF OTHERS WHO SHOULD BE ON THIS LIST?????....... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:35:08 From: Alasdair PhilipsTo: "Roy L. Beavers" Cc: emfacts@zeus.tassie.net.au Subject: Re: A warped view of safety...... (fwd) Roy I have it on what has always proved to be a good authority that both Ericsson and (especially) Motorola have designed GSM 'phones for kids'. They will have limited 'dial-out' abilities - about 5 pre-programmed numbers - with a prime default of their parents specified GSM handset - generally the one of the service provider account holder. I am not so sure about the "teddy bear" bit, but of course it would be possible. I think the main plan is for 3-year olds upwards. There have also been internal discussions about allowing the parents to covertly dial in and listen to what is going on without their child's phone actually ringing. This is already a built in function of all ISDN compatibile public phone services (mobile and wired), [!!!!guru] although not all wired phones can support it and it is normally software masked out on mobiles - it requires a special and complicated authorisation sequence to be transmitted from the base station to enable it - and this is only officially allowed for espionage or drug dealing security and intelligence reasons. The main arguments against providing this feature for the childs phones have been that the phone companies are worried that it will raise public and media questions about just how 'secure' people's normal calls are. As regards the positioning - the GPS bit is probably a joke. In fact the cellular operators can already locate mobile phones to within a few tens of metres and a few metres in cities by simple triangulation methods from all the base-stations within comms range. The modern systems already do these calculations to ease cell-to-cell transitions and 'hold the call' as users move from cell to cell. Some details of this has been discussed on EMF-L regarding HR xxxx US Senate bills, etc., in recent weeks in relation to 911 calls. As the locations of the base stations are known accurately it is as accurate as differential GPS without the need for satellites. You would only have need for a GPS facility in Iridium handsets being used in remote areas of the world. Alasdair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Alasdair Philips (aphilips@gn.apc.org) Director, UK Powerwatch, EMC Engineer and EMF-bioeffects researcher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html