Subject: SX2 Water Pipes etc., mitigation strategies (fwd) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 211217 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org> To: emfguru@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- .......Spark, what you say here sounds good to me.....guru..... ....I also like the comment about "what we are learning from the cows"... ...A totally innocent and totally objective "witness source" to the fact that biological effects are occurring......Dr. Dahlberg???...... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:56:58 EDT From: Envoptions@aol.com To: rbeavers@llion.org Subject: SX2: Water Pipes etc., mitigation strategies In a message dated 98-08-25 14:09:43 EDT, you write: << As the EMF RAPID working group report found, we're still not sure that all the bio-effects are attributable to the _magnetic_ field.....It now seems more likely that -- we are getting so many bio-effects (even, perhaps, many not yet recognized) -- that we need to de-emphasize the "technical analysis" (which introduces "assumptions" about "how much" of "what" will do "what") and simply talk about proximity or exposure to the EMR or EMF source, as the case may be..... >> Roy, we are in complete agreement. I just state it a little differently. My approach is not "how much is there" but rather what are the sources of what ever is there, and what can be done about them. For the issue of building wiring, there's just a lot of "uncle Fred" wiring out there that leads to elevated exposure. Our other ace in the hole in figuring this out is that in the taking care of "stray voltage" on dairy farms we have learned a lot on what is important to fix (the response of the cows is dramatic, to say the least). There are more than ten cow health parameters that dairy farmers regularily monitor. The electrical system has to be right. I agree with you that Magnetic Fields are probably a poor health metric overall, and in fact we don't do much in the waving around of gaussmeters and comparing the numbers to "standards". [However we do have some Electrically Sensitive clients who do report correlation between gaussmeter readings and how they feel, (headaches etc.) ] Rather we use gaussmeters to tell us there are sources of electromagnetic activity around and we seek out those sources. It turns out that the wiring configurations, as found, lead to the bringing in and/ or creating of other electromagnetic activity such as transients. We start with fixing the electrical systems and our cows and Electrically Sensitive tell us it works, so we just keep doing it. Our general observation is that Electric Fields and Transients have more immediate health effects. However from the technicians perspective we try not to make biological decisions, we seek to get a rid of everything we can find. In the case of the water pipes, by getting rid of the path of current (the Magneyic Field issue) we are also getting rid of a source of transients, that we don't regularily measure, although the measurement technology is heading that way. My main point was before making changes in any electrical system, understand electricity and electrical systems or you may pay the price in shock etc. Spark Burmaster Electrical Engineer ENVIRONMENTAL OPTIONS Chaseburg, Wisconsin 608-483-2604 envoptions@aol.com Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html