Subject: A MISSING ARTICLE OF MINE (Gaigg, Alberg).
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 131722 -0500
From: Roy Beavers
To: guru
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Hi everybody:
>From time to time, it becomes necessary for me to explain why I do
not (can not) forward all the messages I receive......
Happily, I am now forwarding approximately one-third of what I
receive. In due time, that number is likely to fall lower than that.
(I say "happily" because I am truly pleased at the volume of messages
EMF-L is receiving....) Still, I cannot send them all ... for reasons
outlined below....
We have more then 300 people on our list today. The list is now so
long that the ISP is refusing to mail all in one single transmission.
I am having to send them out in sections. On an average day, I
receive perhaps 12 to 30 messages to be forwarded.
However, the reason I do not forward all of them all of the time ...
has little to do with the above. The principle reason that I "try"
to control the volume of messages is -- to maximize the QUALITY
of our message traffic at a comfortable level which holds the
interest of our readers -- rather than drive them away..... Years
ago, I learned that it was necessary to try to **manage** the quality
-- both in terms of the numbers (volume) and "worth" (readability,
relevance, accuracy, etc.) -- of the message traffic if I wanted to
retain the "quality" participants as well.... When I began this list,
I was much less "selective" than I am today.
I soon saw that my "best quality" contributors (like the scientists and
high tech people) were leaving..... Frankly, they get bored when the
message flow assumes too much of a "chat line" quality..... So do you!!!
Most of you "out there," I have found, react in the same way.....
EMF-L is not a chat line....!! It is an information Bulletin Board ...
with a clearly defined Mission -- as set forth on the homepage of the
website.... (Please read it again.)
When I make a decision to include/exclude a message it is ALWAYS with
that mission in my mind (as well as the readability, relevance, etc.).
Still, it cannot be denied..... I WILL make mistakes.....!!
Sorry about that!!!
Regarding the Kofi Annan letter mentioned below.... I sent it (I believe
three times).... I continued to receive responses from people who told me
(a) they couldn't open it, (some claimed it did not even forward), or
it refused to respond to the decoding software in their machine.... I,
got nothing but "hieroglyphics" when I tried to read it, myself....
I asked that it be resubmitted in a different format. Libby Kelley
finally opened it and translated it (without the letter to be signed,
I believe)... and my recollection is that I forwarded what she sent.
I do not still have it in my file....
When something that important is "in the works" -- try to obtain it in
various different formats..... The latest (Windows 95 or 98) seem to
be the ones that gives us the most problems.... Nothing is as good
(universally accepted) as using "plain text."!!! And enclosures --
for some reason -- are always "iffy" with some people..... If you can
send in plain text as a message, THAT is the surest way to get the widest
readership..... My machine now handles html (didn't use to), but when
I send html messages ... I sometimes get complaints back.....
Let us all ... be tolerant, understanding, cooperative, and continue
to persevere....
I intend to......!!!
Cheerio.....
Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
roy@emfguru.com
It is better to light a single candle
than to curse the darkness...
WEBSITE: http://emfguru.com
People are more important than profit$$
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: SCANDINAVIAN REACTIONS ON RELEASE ON SAR-VALUES HER AND A MISSING ARTICLE OF MINE
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:05:13 +0200
From: "Leopoldine Gaigg"
To: "jan Œberg" ,
CC: "Boris Dragin" ,"Karl-Eric *berg"
,"Mikael Ros*n" ,"Olle Johansson"
,"Per Segerback" ,"roger coghill"
Dear Jan
Thank you for the copy. You are quite right. All important articles should
be published.
I have another question: What´s about our letter to Kofi Annan? Olle
Johansson already sent the signature. Is there any possibility to publish or
distribute the letter and the 2 other documents in the Scandiavian
countries too? Today I received a letter with the signature from Spain. We
don´t know, who was the translater into Spanish, but somebody did ist, and
of course, we are very glad. Today I was asked for the Finnish version and
had to tell them that it does´nt exist. And Finnish is quite different to
Swedish and all other languages. We delayed the date until september 30,
because there must be time enough to gather all the signatures around the
globe.
Best regards
Leopoldine
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: jan åberg
An: roy@emfguru.com
Cc: Boris Dragin ; Karl-Eric Åberg
; Leopoldine Gaigg ; Mikael Ros*n
; Olle Johansson ; Per
Segerback ; roger coghill
Datum: Montag, 28. August 2000 12:49
Betreff: SV: SCANDINAVIAN REACTIONS ON RELEASE ON SAR-VALUES HER AND A
MISSING ARTICLE OF MINE
>Hi Roys (and other fellows at this list)!
>
>Yes. I read that present article. It was i valuable and most
>interesting one. But for shure it was not the text of mine.
>
>So. For my understanding the proceedurs of the publishing at Your
>webbsite and the malininglist of Yours:
>tell me where to find "Scandinavian Reactions..."!
>
>Secondly. I can very well understand some problems upcoming from time
>to time for You making comments to letters to the list. If so: why not
>publish all the incoming letters (e-mail) and only comment those You
>may find of specific interest?
>
>I sent You further two articles dismissed at the E-maillist to wich I
>thougt belonged to: 1. About the Swedish Radiation Board
>(contradictionary messages from the authority, I found the former
>professors statement quite appropriate while the present professor is
>a nasty one) and 2. A "scoop" on dubble blind speed go ahead" of mine
>(about the Blue World and their pink dreams, now realized in
>lasertransferring from Terabeam here in Sweden and in the US, not
>reported earlier in Sweden, but Yuo may be familiar with the problem
>in US or elsewhere, so tell me that - I´m most eager to study this new
>direction!).
>
>Was these two E-mails of mine of no interest? ("there are a flow of
>E-mails coming in..."
>
>Cheers!
>
>Jan Aaberg
>Sweden
>
>freelance journalist, specialized on EMF-questions, at the moment
>going for different aspects of the "BLUE WORLD", and freedom of
>speech (among other things)
>
>
>
>-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>Från: Roy Beavers
>Till: jan åberg
>Datum: den 27 augusti 2000 18:50
>Ämne: Re: SCANDINAVIAN REACTIONS ON RELEASE ON SAR-VALUES HER AND A
>MISSING ARTICLE OF MINE
>
>
>>Jan:
>>
>>Have you read "Much ado about very little" (comment on SAR matter)
>which is
>>on my website in the Current Messages file??
>>
>>guru
>>
>>jan åberg wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Roy and other fellows at this list!
>>>
>>> Yesterday Ericsson in Sweden announced that they now are prepared
>to
>>> declare SAR-values on mobilephones in Sweden - within some six
>>> months... (Great! They know that some Swedes can read English and
>>> otherwise can get them "for free" via US!)
>>>
>>> They first have to "calibrate" measuring equipment's (as I earlier
>>> wrote in a mail to this list).
>>>
>>> The Green party here in Sweden welcome this statement from
>mobilephone
>>> industry. A well known ingeneer, at the profession a jonization
>>> technologist on radiation, named Barbro Feltzing, at the Green
>party,
>>> has been struggling at
>>> least since 1994 to force the industry to release these values. In
>the
>>> same pressrelease from the green party she says that this may be a
>>> first important step. But not more than the first that stair we
>have
>>> to enter (which seems to be somewhat a long and troublesome
>one...).
>>>
>>> Also representatives from the liberal party the very well known Eva
>>> Flyborg, member of Swedish parliament, also very hard fighting
>woman
>>> just on the issues on SAR-values (especially on the vital question
>on
>>> mobilephones and their effects on children, "babymobiles") did
>welcome
>>> this new maneuver from industry.
>>>
>>> So: thank You Roy and the rest of You others at this list who
>forced
>>> the US industry to "break the wall".
>>> In East Germany they tried hard to do a similar thing - in
>centuries.
>>> Hope that You haven´´t forget a nasty thing named the Berlin-wall!?
>>>
>>> It began with a little tiny hole and ended with a complete tear
>down
>>> of that monster!
>>>
>>> Blue World is a very modern veritable monster that has to be
>moderated
>>> into other forms, optocables f.ex.
>>>
>>> Time is now five to twelve. There are many stairs to enter.
>>>
>>> Lets do it!
>>>
>>> Jan Aaberg
>>>
>>> Ps I did not see my article "Speeded blind" to appear on Your
>>> malinglist (I got a mail from an ingeneer saying that You told him
>>> that my article was published at Your list. I did not see it
>either.
>>> Where, exactly, to find it? It was an important one, at least for
>me -
>>> to deliver to the list members.
>>> CHEERS!
>>>
>>> ->Mikael:
>>>
>>> >I do not have that message in my files on my computer..... It will
>be
>>> in
>>> >the archives which Robert Bedard provides on his excellent website
>>> (Wave-guide)....... You
>>> >will also find a link on my website homepage.....guru........
>>> >
>>> >Mikael Ros*n wrote:
>>
>>--
>>
>>Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
>>roy@emfguru.com
>>
>>It is better to light a single candle
>> than to curse the darkness.....
>>
>>WEBSITE: http://emfguru.com
>>
>>People are more important than profit$$
>>
>>
>
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