Subject: Cell "mast" safe distance?? (Wong)..
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 085218 -0500
From: Roy Beavers
To: Roy Beavers
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.........Questions like this frustrate me -- because there is no "pat" answer.....
Regular readers of the EMF-L list know why that is true...... Still, I ask some of
our experienced people to respond in cases like this...... Guru cannot respond to
all of them!!!.......guru......
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Subject: Re: Do ear phones work?? (Wasserman)(Philips)(Fist)(Kramer)..]
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 21:41:32 +0800
From: bjwan
To: guru@emfguru.com
References: <398BCBDC.3B74743D@emfguru.com>
Dear Mr. Roy,
Thanks for your info on ear phone. Is it recommended to buy a house which is 200
meters away from a telecom/TV towers? Kindly advice as I cannot make any
decision. Thanks.
Regards,
Ms Wong
Roy Beavers wrote:
> .........Response from EMF-L.......
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Do ear phones work?? (Wasserman)(Philips)(Fist)(Kramer)..
> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 09:53:46 +0200
> From: "Brian Wasserman"
> To:
> References: <398B4F59.4B8EF2DC@emfguru.com>
>
> The only measurements that are accurate are "Biological" I have now read 5
> different opinions posted in the last week. Measured at the phone, measured
> at the head, used this equipment, taking RF readings and then microwave
> readings. Someone wrote that a gaussmeter is inaccurate???
>
> Gerrit Teule's post is logical when he says...**Most committees of (elderly
> and established) scientists cannot turn themselves into a more wholistic way
> of seeing things and they stick to their man=machine ideas. Most machines
> are not hurt by EMR, so why should a human being be hurt, except from
> getting a bit heated? **
>
> I mentioned before that if something does not make sense to a scientist then
> it is unscientific and therefore does not exist. I work with negative
> energies every day of my life and I can assure you, electromagnetic
> radiation is killing us. No man made measuring equipment can accurately
> determine the "BIOLOGICAL BREAK DOWN" of our cells.
>
> Roger Coghill of the UK, who developed a lymphocyte module, whereby he
> exposes human blood cells to a cell phone in 'standby' mode is in my
> opinion, one of the few Biologists that has come close to the truth (Neil
> Cherry excluded of course). Coghill shows that EMR attacks our white blood
> cells which are our lymphocytes, which is our immune system. No measuring
> equipment is used to determine the EMR output, it is a straight forward test
> exposing human cells to the radiation and then measuring what happens to the
> cells.
>
> While we grapple for answers attempting to measure EMR exposure, we slowly
> get ill. The cellular companies will change their phones so that the
> measuring equipment will show less output which is a ploy to appease us. The
> truth lies in genuine Biological testing and not in measuring equipment.
>
> Brian Wasserman
> bw@radar3.com
> www.radar3.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roy Beavers"
> To: "Roy Beavers"
> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 1:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Do ear phones work?? (Wasserman)(Philips)(Fist)(Kramer)..
>
> ..........Response from EMF-L.........
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Do ear phones work?? (Wasserman)(Philips)(Fist)..]
> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 13:13:42 -0500
> From: "M. David Kramer"
> To: guru@emfguru.com
> References: <398A8F04.239AB429@emfguru.com>
>
> Roy,
>
> The full text of the article mentioned in Stewart's message
> can be viewed at the
> following url:
>
> http://www.choice.com.au/articles/a101565p1.htm
>
> There is no mention in the article about whether the
> exposure reductions were measured
> from the headset earpiece or the phone itself after the
> headset was connected. Does
> anybody have information about this? In the ABC 20/20
> broadcast, only the emissions
> from the phone were measured after the headset was attached,
> but no measurements were
> taken at the earpiece of the headset.
>
> Best regards,
>
> M. David Kramer
> Aegis Corporation
> http://www.goaegis.com
>
> Roy Beavers wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > ...........Response from EMF-L...........
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: Do ear phones work?? (Wasserman)(Philips)..]
> > Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 16:45:04 +1000
> > From: Stewart Fist
> > Reply-To: fist@ozemail.com.au
> > Organization: Independent writer and columnist
> > To: guru@emfguru.com
> > References: <398855DF.AD514626@emfguru.com>
> >
> > The Australian Consumers Association has just published their testing of
> > hands-free kits, and they say the earpiece reduces head exposures by at
> least 90%.
> >
> > I think there's more to it than this -- as Alasdair has pointed out -- but
> a
> > 90% reduction in head exposure is not something to just be dismissed. But
> at
> > least you've got two kidneys to fall back on if you persist with strapping
> the
> > phone to your belt.
> >
> > CDMA phones probably reduce the average exposure density by similar
> ratios,
> > and so, in combination, it is possible to reduce active head exposures by
> > factors in the 100:1 region over what we have been experiencing in the
> past.
> >
> > The Faraday cage effect of a car is an enormous protection for car phone
> > users, provided there isn't spurious radiation from the microphone lead,
> etc.
> > And with a well designed set this shouldn't happen. So external roof-top
> > antennaes are clearly better, even if the power is greater.
> >
> > However, I'm worried about the number of back-window mounted antennas you
> see.
> > Children are often strapped into those carriages in the backseat with
> their
> > heads just inches away from these window antenna.
> >
> > I doubt that the heating elements in the glass provide any protective
> effects.
> >
> > --
> > Stewart Fist - writer and columnist
> > See http://www.australianIT.com.au/opinion/crossroads/
> > http://www.abc.net.au/http/sfist/ (some archives)
> > http://www.electric-words.com (main archives)
> > 70 Middle Harbour Road, Lindfield, 2070, N.S.W, Australia
> > Phone +61 2 9416 7458 Fax +61 2 9416 4582
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