Subject: (Butler) (Curry) Microwave Shields (fwd) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 095732 -0600 (CST) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org> To: emfguru <rbeavers@llion.org> -------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:51:38 -0800 From: James ButlerTo: "Roy L. Beavers" Subject: Re: (Curry) Microwave Shields (fwd) Roy, In this shielding discussion, a few more points. Peter says, € Anything else is useless! € aside from the ANOX BIOSHIELD. I would counter that elimination and reduction are quite useful. Not being in the field ought to be anyones first choice. Beyond this, the bioshield, the Claris products and others evoking mystical powers of crystals [ as Bill describes ] need to meet two criteria; First. They [ companies ] should be able to explain it to lay people. [ one measure of good science ] Instead, it seems they are unable to even find a common language with physicists. Second, perhaps more important, they should be able to demonstrate the biological effects in simple experiments. In reference to non-mystical shielding products Peter says, € I am confident that biological measures will still show that serious harm is still taking place after using any of these products €. Maybe so, I also feel very small amounts have biological effects. Peter also says, € No product on the market today, with one exception, has ever truly demonstrated nor reported biological test results showing the protective properties of their product. The one exception is Anox Bioshield € Again, if the results are definitive, I would love to see them. But I have requested them of Claris [ even suggested experiments ] and, as far as Anox Bioshield, I dont speak French or German [ no English on the website ] and have requested translations. Peter continues, € the only true mitigation technology that clearly shows, via hormonal and other biological measures, the harm caused by Pulsed EMR and that it is capable of correcting and thus improving the health of the user. Biological measures, and only biological measure are the true benchmark to prove both harm and protection €. If this is so, then they would have been withholding all the keys to the mechanism of action for EMF, which all the EMF scientists have been pursuing for these many years. If so, then Claris & Anox & others would be selling hundreds of millions of units per year and we wouldnt be wasting our time persuading people of the hazard of EMF. Ever optimistic, I actually believe there are some new truths in these area but the people expounding these theories [ and selling products ] need to raise their science far above the rhetoric. Crying loudly € It Works !€ is not near enough. Regards, and Christmas Wishes, Jim Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html