Subject: Anarchy vs. oligarchy..... (Gordon).. Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 211300 -0600 (CST) From: "Roy L. Beavers"To: emfguru -------------------------------------------------- Hi everybody: I agree with Jeff's comment below -- including his implied criticism of my (careless) formulation..... I agree that the thugs should not be identified with Pat Buchanan -- or for that matter, with 95% of the activists who were there protesting the WTO..... Their protests seem to have accomplished something -- in fact.... Some of the TV (and NPR radio) coverage that I have caught -- have treated the activists (and their issues) very favorably.... A spokesman (lady) named Wallach -- I thought -- did an exceptionally good job of explaining the problems that are being created by the WTO..... I hope I don't misrepresent here views, when I say that she made it quite clear ... the problem is not with "trade" (per se) ... but with trade/profit driven at the expense of other equally or more important values: like the preservation of our rights to decide locally about our environmental and health rules/laws.... She did a better job than I am doing..... But she was an excellent spokeswoman.... (I saw so many programs on the subject, I just can't remember which one she was on....) If anybody "out there" knows her, I hope you will convey my admiration for the job she did..... We could use her on the EMF cause... Jeff -- thanks for your message.... Cheerio..... Roy Beavers (EMFguru) roy@emfguru.com .....It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness..... NEW!!! Website ...................People are more important than profits................. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 21:47:02 -0500 From: jeff.gordon@wellnow.com To: "Roy L. Beavers" Subject: Re: (jg) (emf) Anarchy vs. oligarchy..... Hi, Roy -- >-If you and your hooligan thugs must destroy .... The way you wrote that, it sounds like you're saying it to Buchanan -- but the article did say: >-He added that violence by a small number of demonstrators was >- ``deplorable.'' ...so he's not endorsing that. NOTE, however, there exists a possiblity that the violence is _not_ being wrought by the demonstrators; it could easily be "agents provocateur", for all we know. Things are shaping up (in the public mind) as a choice between unacceptable 'liberalism/socialism' and unacceptabel 'anarchy'. The likely choice, the synthesis of this thesis and antithesis, to be offered to us at some point, would be "more governmental control for the sake of business and the sake of law and order". -- Jeff -- http://www.wellnow.com --------------------------------------------------------- Well Now Health Information Service Box 15524 Atlanta Georgia [30333] eFax: (419) 793-3043 --------------------------------------------------------- "There's nothing left in the world to prove. All that's worth doing is to love one another, using any means available to that purpose." --------------------------------------------------------- Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.emfguru.com