Subject: Australian Broadcasting Com. cellphone program (Fist). Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 222937 -0600 From: Roy BeaversTo: guru -------------------------------------------------- ........From EMF-L....... Stewart has forwarded (below) a really first-rate professional report which suggests that some genuine momentum is taking place in Australia. It is good to see (and hear) of our old friend Dr. Peter French, too. Stewart, may I offer an opinion about 'some' of the dialogue the "press" profession -- in Australia as well as elsewhere -- continues to get "hung up on." It concerns their inability (or is it unwillingness) to recognize the NEED to focus their reporting on the fact that we ARE now consistently finding "demonstrable biological effects." (Quoted from story below.) The "press" (serving the industry's cause) seem to want to treat that finding as of little consequence since it does not **prove** "adverse health effects." In reality -- THAT is the story..... I suggest that they (the "press) are reporting the wrong issue. -- Is it really lack of "proof" that their readers/listeners want/need to know about? Or are these reporters not, in fact, "caving in" to their readers/listeners desire to be given assurances that: It is O.K. to play RUSSIAN ROULETTE with the cell phones and their antennas (and the whole ubiquitous Blue World milieu)? That is what the public seems to want out of this story. "Tell us that it is O.K." The truthful story is that it **is probably NOT O.K.** It will be many years before we know "which chambers" of the EMF "gun" contain the bullets..... BUT -- THE FACT IS -- WE DO NOW KNOW ... THE GUN IS LOADED.......!!! That is the real meaning of the **consistently more solid evidence** of the biological effects that are being uncovered.... Said another way -- the more we LOOK ... the more we FIND ... evidence of biological activity induced/caused/associated with EMF exposure to human cells and tissue ... and at any and all frequencies in the EMF spectrum! THAT should be their story...... What we DO know!!! NOT what we do not know.......guru...... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Australian Broadcasting Commission cellphone program Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:05:23 +1100 From: Stewart Fist Reply-To: fist@ozemail.com.au Organization: Independent writer and columnist To: roy@emfguru.com References: <3A3A89FB.DED24737@emfguru.com> ABC's 7.30 Report The ABC's 7.30 Report (Australian public TV's key current affairs program) ran a half-hour special program last night (Friday 15 Dec 2000) on mobile phone health. This was quite an extraordinary event, since they devoted the whole program to one subject (normally it consists of five or more distinct segments), and it was hastily put to air on the last day of the regular show for the year, at a time when the program is under threat from management and funding cuts. We are still trying to figure out why it was presented in this way, and what this all means. It featured old material from Drs Stan Barnett and Ross Adey and some later stuff on activist Don Maisch (discussing the Australian standards committee fiasco) plus a couple of spokesmen for the industry denying any possibility of problems. Most of this material appears to have been prerecorded some time ago and not used (usually current affairs material is used on this program within a day). There was also some old 1995 footage of Dr Henry Lai and Narendara Singh talking about their 1994 DNA-break studies and a brief historical summary, including Reynard in Florida in 1993. These pre-recorded segments were linked by two live interview segments with three "eminent scientists in the field." 1. Dr Lawrie Challis - Dept Chair of the Stewart Inquiry (a Professor of Physics) from London via satellite. 2. Dr Peter French - biological researcher from Sydney's St Vincent Hospital, who has been vocal on the need for more research. 3. Dr Andrew Wood - a biophysicist from Swinburne University of Technology in Melbourne. Wood was introduced as having done some studies part-funded by Telstra and WHO (as to "Whether calcium levels in cells are altered by mobile phone radiation" ... his reply "certainly we've found no indication" despite the fact that such changes have "been reported for 25 years") [This was a new study, to me. I've vaguely heard of Wood, but not of this study. Swinburne has also done a reaction/mental test study run by Dr Con Stough] Wood was clearly seen by the 7.30 Reports anchorman, Kerry O'Brien, as being the spokesman for the industry and thermal viewpoints (although I am not suggesting he represented the industry itself). He concentrated on the thermal aspects, and the lack of consistency in scientific findings. During the program a spokesman for the Australian Communications Authority, Mr Ian McCallister, also revealed that "government regulation of warning labels might soon be required here." The discussion was hampered to a degree by the fact that the scientists constantly made a key distinction between the evidence of demonstrable biological effects, and adverse health effects. This is an important distinction, but one that would have confused the audience, and clearly confused the anchorman. He constantly harped on whether there was "conclusive proof" of harm, and wouldn't easily accept the scientists's natural reluctance to give him the absolute assurance he sought. Challis said that the Stewart Inquiry looked at 430 scientific papers and found "no convinving evidence of heatlh effects", but that there could "well be biological effects". He explained the difference (as opposite ends of a threat spectrum) and said "we don't know where we are on that range." "Until a few years ago, I don't think we would have recognised that our bodies could detect biological effects from this sort of radiation at this sort of level. So clearly we need to do more work to find out ... are there any health effects associated with that?" [Challis] [Wood] "Certainly there have been a number of studies of human ability to do intelligence tests and memory tests that appear to be altered, but it is difficult to make an estimate as to whether that would constitute a health effect." Peter French was more definite and said that the phones were "not inert, and can produce biological effects in people." There was also some discussion of the current carrier Xmas sales pitch to children, and all agreed that this was unconcionable. Challis also said that care should be taken in siting towers "in sensitive areas, such as schools" [Most of the discussion was about handsets - all three agreed that towers were likely to be much less problem] Challis listed three reasons why children may be susceptible. a) the fact that the problem could compound over their lifetimes (he didn't specify cumulative DNA damage, but I think this is clearly what he meant). b) That their immune system was still developing c) that they possibly had more ions in their tissues, and therefore may absorb more energy. (Remember, he is a physicist, so I guess this is the way he sees the problems of greater cell division rates and cell growth) He also stressed "cult usage" as a problem, and made a counter point about siting towers near schools, that due to the proximity of the base-station, the student's phones would be working at low emission powers. [Good argument, but only provided the base-station is owned by the carrier being used.] Challis also took the UK line of questioning the value of hands-free kits, but said that they could be designed to reduce head exposure. (They probably are already). Overall, this was a pretty good program, even though it was obviously patched together for some reason, and presented as a special right on the possible last day of the program's existance (We don't know yet, but it may be dumped in the new year). I think it is the first time in twenty-odd years that an entire half-hour has been devoted to one subject with this program. -- Stewart Fist - writer and columnist See http://www.australianIT.com.au/opinion/crossroads/ http://www.abc.net.au/http/sfist/ (some archives) http://www.electric-words.com (main archives) 70 Middle Harbour Road, Lindfield, 2070, N.S.W, Australia Phone +61 2 9416 7458 Fax +61 2 9416 4582 Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.emfguru.com