Subject: Classroom LAN risks (Brown).
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 044050 -0600
From: Roy Beavers
To: guru
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............From EMF-L.........
Dr. Gary Brown has completed (in draft form) an excellent paper which not only well
addresses
his main theme -- classroom LAN risks -- but also provides a good "current state of the
science"
update of the risks which the public is being "obliged" to assume within the entire
'wireless
technology' subject: including, to some degree, the cell phones and their transmitting
antenna.
In my view, he has (correctly stated the law) but -- because the FCC does not live up to
its
publicly advertised role -- overly stressed the protective consequences of any FCC
regulation
of the wireless environment ... where possible health effects are concerned.
In fact, the FCC is not merely a "paper tiger" in that regard; in the LOOKOUT MOUNTAIN
case (one example of many which can be cited) the FCC has totally reneged on any notion
that
it has any "health protection" regularity responsibilities whatsoever. It has passed the
buck
to other government agencies. Perhaps because of the way the "laws" are written, the FCC
appears to be talking out of both sides of its mouth at the same time. It is
"responsible" for
monitoring and enforcing -- but not for defining the risks...... In truth, it does no
monitoring
and very little enforcing of anything having to do with any public health risks ...
regardless
of what the laws say......!!!
This is said not to criticize Dr. Brown's work, but to offer a "reader beware" when you
read
that part of his excellent paper. The link is provided below...... I urge everyone to
go to that link.......guru......
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Blue World Times Ten (Beaver)(Stevens).
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 20:17:08 -0500
From: "Dr. Gary Brown"
To: roy@emfguru.com,
References: <3A2D1142.E9103FF7@emfguru.com>
Dear friends,
It has been a while since I last communicated with you. I have finished a paper on
wireless LANS and the issues surrounding wireless in general. I have received comments
and information during the peer review process. I have also presented this paper in
Washington before a GAO fact finding committee commissioned bu Joe Liberman. The pr group
presentation was presented with Cindy Sage and Jerry Phillips(over a conference call while
I was with the GAO group in D.C. . This paper has been peer reviewed by many experts and
I welcome additional comments and information before sending it out . It is ready for
distribution and here is the link http://www.flipag.net/nopoles/WLANSreport.html
Also here is an animated gif link that illustrates the wireless LAN scenario in a school
campus environment Please note that this second link will take a few minutes to load-but
it is worth the wait. http://www.flipag.net/nopoles/WLAN.html
Your comments and feedback on this issue are most welcomed. If you have additional
information that you would like to contribute please do so
dlhelp@bellsouth.net.
Many thanks
Dr. Gary Brown
Roy Beavers wrote:
> .........Response from EMF-L.......
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Blue World Times Ten (Beaver)..
> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:01:10 -0000
> From: "Donald Stevens"
> To:
>
> Hello Roy,
> You might like to point out to the network the usefulness of the graphic on
> page 43 of Niel Cherry's document. (guru's website) It very effectivly
> destroys the validity of "Government Standards"
> Best wishes,
> Donald Stevens.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Beavers
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> Date: 30 November 2000 16:28
> Subject: Blue World Times Ten (Beaver)..
>
> >
> >
> >........From EMF-L.......
> >
> >High on my list of places I never want to live ... is San Francisco.....
> >.....guru......
> >
> >-------- Original Message --------
> >Subject: Blue World Times Ten
> >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:22:05 +0000
> >From: Christopher Beaver
> >Reply-To: idgfilms@earthlink.net
> >To: roy@emfguru.com
> >References: <3A259F62.70922F@emfguru.com>
> >
> >Dear Roy:
> >
> >We're fighting three Sprint PCS antennas to be placed on top of a jazz
> >club here in San Francisco. Several hospitals and businesses have
> >already rejected the antennas so something positive is beginning to stir
> >in our society. However, on top of this revelation, an interesting piece
> >of news turned up.
> >
> >David Hammett of Hammett and Edison appeared on behalf of Sprint PCS at
> >a Sprint-sponsored neighborhood meeting last night. He was there to
> >explain the absolute safety of cellular antennas: "five hundred times
> >below the U.S. standard." In the course of questions and answers,
> >Hammett revealed that these new antennas will have an output of 1000
> >watts as opposed to the more usual installations here in San Francisco
> >of 100 watts.
> >
> >Although Sprint has achieved virtually total outdoor coverage in San
> >Francisco according to Hammett, Sprint has now upped the ante to provide
> >total indoor coverage as well. Hence the need to radiate at increased
> >power levels. And they have not yet progressed to providing wireless
> >internet and so forth.
> >
> >According to the Sprint attorney present, some 1.5 million households in
> >the U.S. currently use only wireless telephones in the home. For the
> >sake of this small percentage, the rest of us will face increased
> >exposures from the larger antennas.
> >
> >Sprint has fifty installations throughout San Francisco and has plans to
> >build fifty more.
> >
> >Very best,
> >
> >Christopher Beaver
> >
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............From EMF-L.........
Dr. Gary Brown has completed (in draft form) an excellent paper which
not only well addresses
his main theme -- classroom LAN risks -- but also provides a good "current
state of the science"
update of the risks which the public is being "obliged" to assume
within the entire 'wireless
technology' subject: including, to some degree, the cell phones
and their transmitting antenna.
In my view, he has (correctly stated the law) but -- because the FCC
does not live up to its
publicly advertised role -- overly stressed the protective
consequences of any FCC regulation
of the wireless environment ... where possible health effects
are concerned.
In fact, the FCC is not merely a "paper tiger" in that regard;
in the LOOKOUT MOUNTAIN
case (one example of many which can be cited) the FCC has totally reneged
on any notion that
it has any "health protection" regularity responsibilities whatsoever.
It has passed the buck
to other government agencies. Perhaps because of the way the
"laws" are written, the FCC
appears to be talking out of both sides of its mouth at the same time.
It is "responsible" for
monitoring and enforcing -- but not for defining the risks......
In truth, it does no monitoring
and very little enforcing of anything having to do with any public
health risks ... regardless
of what the laws say......!!!
This is said not to criticize Dr. Brown's work, but to offer a "reader
beware" when you read
that part of his excellent paper. The link is provided below......
I urge everyone to go to that link.......guru......
-------- Original Message --------
| Subject: |
Re: Blue World Times Ten (Beaver)(Stevens). |
| Date: |
Thu, 07 Dec 2000 20:17:08 -0500 |
| From: |
"Dr. Gary Brown" <dlhelp@bellsouth.net> |
| To: |
roy@emfguru.com,
|
| References: |
<3A2D1142.E9103FF7@emfguru.com> |
Dear friends,
It has been a while since I last communicated with you. I have finished
a paper on wireless LANS and the issues surrounding wireless
in general. I have received comments and information during the peer review
process. I have also presented this paper in Washington before a GAO fact
finding committee commissioned bu Joe Liberman. The pr group presentation
was presented with Cindy Sage and Jerry Phillips(over a conference call
while I was with the GAO group in D.C. . This paper has been
peer reviewed by many experts and I welcome additional comments and information
before sending it out . It is ready for distribution and here is the link
http://www.flipag.net/nopoles/WLANSreport.html
Also here is an animated gif link that illustrates
the wireless LAN scenario in a school campus environment Please note
that this second link will take a few minutes to load-but it is worth the
wait. http://www.flipag.net/nopoles/WLAN.html
Your comments and feedback on this issue are
most welcomed. If you have additional information that you would like to
contribute please do so
dlhelp@bellsouth.net.
Many thanks
Dr. Gary Brown
Roy Beavers wrote:
.........Response from EMF-L.......
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Blue World Times Ten (Beaver)..
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:01:10 -0000
From: "Donald Stevens" <mktxuk@globalnet.co.uk>
To: <roy@emfguru.com>
Hello Roy,
You might like to point out to the network the usefulness of the graphic
on
page 43 of Niel Cherry's document. (guru's website) It very effectivly
destroys the validity of "Government Standards"
Best wishes,
Donald Stevens.
-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Beavers <guru@emfguru.com>
To: undisclosed-recipients:; <undisclosed-recipients:;>
Date: 30 November 2000 16:28
Subject: Blue World Times Ten (Beaver)..
>
>
>........From EMF-L.......
>
>High on my list of places I never want to live ... is San Francisco.....
>.....guru......
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: Blue World Times Ten
>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:22:05 +0000
>From: Christopher Beaver <idgfilms@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: idgfilms@earthlink.net
>To: roy@emfguru.com
>References: <3A259F62.70922F@emfguru.com>
>
>Dear Roy:
>
>We're fighting three Sprint PCS antennas to be placed on top of a
jazz
>club here in San Francisco. Several hospitals and businesses have
>already rejected the antennas so something positive is beginning to
stir
>in our society. However, on top of this revelation, an interesting
piece
>of news turned up.
>
>David Hammett of Hammett and Edison appeared on behalf of Sprint PCS
at
>a Sprint-sponsored neighborhood meeting last night. He was there to
>explain the absolute safety of cellular antennas: "five hundred times
>below the U.S. standard." In the course of questions and answers,
>Hammett revealed that these new antennas will have an output of 1000
>watts as opposed to the more usual installations here in San Francisco
>of 100 watts.
>
>Although Sprint has achieved virtually total outdoor coverage in San
>Francisco according to Hammett, Sprint has now upped the ante to provide
>total indoor coverage as well. Hence the need to radiate at increased
>power levels. And they have not yet progressed to providing wireless
>internet and so forth.
>
>According to the Sprint attorney present, some 1.5 million households
in
>the U.S. currently use only wireless telephones in the home. For the
>sake of this small percentage, the rest of us will face increased
>exposures from the larger antennas.
>
>Sprint has fifty installations throughout San Francisco and has plans
to
>build fifty more.
>
>Very best,
>
>Christopher Beaver
>
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