Subject: Re Brain Tumor/Cell Phone Epi Study (Fist)(Weller)(Morse).
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 134538 -0600
From: Roy Beavers
To: guru
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........Response from EMF-L.....
Donn, have you noticed the "collapse" of AT&T on the stock market??
Their "customer relations" have long been text book stuff -- how NOT
to deal with the public......
I can see the same befalling most of the wireless industry ... as the
public learns more about what they are being exposed to ... willy, nilly
by an industry that DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.
There is no "equalizer" with those BIG $$$$$$ "screw the public" companies
that works quite as well as a bit of "humbling" on Wall Street......
Sell your "wireless" (cell phone) stocks.........guru......
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Brain Tumor/Cell Phone Epi Study (Fist)(Weller)..
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:26:28 -0800
From: "DonnMo"
To:
References: <3A424568.EF1A1FC6@emfguru.com>
Roy,
I'm concerned that industry is focusing on the less threatening aspect of
their technology (hand-held phones with an average of 0.25 watts of output)
so that they can "overlook" the more dangerous piece of equipment (their
transmitters which are often stacked three and four high on a tower).
According to an AT&T rep at a recent meeting of the Latah Cty. Planning
commission here in Moscow, Idaho, each of their transmitters broadcast over
33 channels with 100 watts per channel. (7 days a week, 24 hours per day).
Note that a single transmitter's peak power output is 3300 watts (or 13,200
times the power of a handheld phone). Co-locating four transmitters on a
tower produces 13,200 watts (or 52,800 times the power of a handheld phone).
It gets even more interesting as the county is hoping to co-locate four or
five towers in a given area (to minimize impact across the community).
Do you know of any industry studies which focus on the towers and their
transmitters? (Better yet, do you know of any unbiased studies which focus
on this issue?)
Thanks,
--Donn Morse
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Beavers"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: Brain Tumor/Cell Phone Epi Study (Fist)(Weller)..
>
>
>
> .......Response from EMF-L......
>
> (Based on my knowledge of the Atwater and Synar cases -- it has long
> been my belief/assumption that it is the "heavy users" who experience
> the cancer. Probably on the order of 3 to 4 hours per day or more --
> and for some period of time ... as in a political campaign of
> six months or so. Later, when Mike (Synar) was working as a lobbyist
> for the wireless industry, I don't know of his use habits. But I
> understand that he was given "free" use of his official phone on that
> job -- the last one he ever held......guru......)
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Brain Tumor/Cell Phone Epi Study (Fist).....
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:39:01 -0800
> From: rweller@h-e.com (Robert D. Weller, Hammett & Edison, Inc.)
> Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.
> To: roy@emfguru.com
>
> So, are there then ANY epidemiological studies that demonstrate a
connection
> between cell phone use and cancer? Widespread cell phone use in the U.S.
has
> been occuring for over ten years.
>
> Bob Weller
>
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000, 4:29:07 AM Roy Beavers wrote:
>
> >-------- Original Message --------
> >Subject: Re: Brain Tumor/Cell Phone Epi Study
> >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:33:09 +1100
> >From: Stewart Fist
> >Reply-To: fist@ozemail.com.au
> >Organization: Independent writer and columnist
> >To: roy@emfguru.com
> >References: <3A40A26C.D23D3236@emfguru.com>
> >
> >snip<
> >
> >However this interpretation relies on a number of assumptions that are
> >just not viable or acceptable:
> >
> >The first, and most obvious assumption is that both groups have been
> >using mobile phones for long enough to allow incipient brain cancers to
> >incubate to a level where they will be detected. And as people have
> >already pointed out, three years is not enough. You probably need five
> >to ten at an absolute minimum.
> >
>
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