Subject: EMF spin control (fwd) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 132107 -0600 (CST) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org> To: emfguru@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:28:27 +0100 From: Clas TegenfeldtTo: "Roy L. Beavers" Subject: EMF spin control At 09:34 1998-02-24 -0600, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 16:39:36 +0800 >From: "T. H. Chen" >To: "Roy L. Beavers" >Subject: Re: Crash of China Airline A-300 > >The actual cause for the crash of China Airline's A300 is still not clear >yet, but the government has anounced a new rule which can send anyone >making cellular phone calls on airplane to prison up to 5 years. If any >accident caused by the phone call, the penalty can go up to life sentence. Just the other week a plane was forced to return and land since their navigation equippment didn't work properly. It was suspected that a cellular phone was the cause for this intermittent fault. The problem is that airlines today may recommend their passengers to switch of their phones but lack any mean to check if anyone neglects to follow their direction. Many people do not distinguish between switch off and not talking in the phone. To really ensure that no cellular phone tries to transmitt, either as part of a conversation or just regular handshakes with basestations, one has to have an "cellular alarm" that detects the presence of an active cellular phone and warns the personel. It is good to have juridicial force behind, but what is the use if you can't /prove/ that anyone had their phone on? What use is it if the plane crashed and lost all hands? Remember it is not necessary to /make an actual call/, it is sufficient to let the phone be left on... That is an important point! In the first case you /actively/ take a step to do something that you should know is wrong, in the latter case you are /passively avoiding/ doing a thing that may prove be hazardous. In my mind the difference is wast, both psycologically speaking as well as I think it is juridically. Am I wrong? Translated to the issue of ES this also points out a fundamental difficulty, how can an ES person prudently avoid being exposed, and if it cannot be avoided, who is to be blamed? The cellular system is built to expose everyone everyplace to about the same power density. The user using the system is exposing himself as well as others, but may do so by lack of knowledge, in good faith. I believe the only way of resolving the question of guilt is to ensure that the company designing, building and marketing the base stations and handies cannot avoid responsibility in any way. Not by reducing the possibility of being sued in court, not by ridiculing scientific evidence, not by conducting sponsored research showing convinient security, not by playing different countries legaslation against eachother, not by some agreement such as MAI whereby the companies may force the society to pay the cost of the consequences of their profits, not by moving profits into other companies and leaving an empty shell to pay the for the damages done. We have all seen all of these tactics being used, haven't we? We have reports "showing" /less/ leukemia among rats exposed to EMFs than the control group. At the same time we have reports on rats exposed to of cell phone radiation resulting in a two fold increase in lymphoma. How come the first study may be extrapolated to humans but not the other? (by industry representatives). In almost all research on medicine, cosmetics, chemical hazards or whatever, rats, pigs, monkeys and all kinds of animals, cell cultures are used successfully. Why not in EMFs? The best counterargument I have heard about the similarity between rats and humans is "DNA is DNA". A DNA molecule breakage due to exposure to microwaves cannot know it is a part of a rat or part of a human, can it? Clas Tegenfeldt ,,, (o o) ------------oOOO------(_)------OOOo------------------- BEMI - Better Electromagnetic Enviroment BEMI Telephone/fax +46 (0)13-74075 Tornevalla Gamla Skola Timezone GMT-1 S-590 62 LINGHEM E-mail tegen@bemi.se SWEDEN Web http://www.bemi.se Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html