Subject: Re Free Zones - more on satellites ETC (fwd)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 142754 -0600 (CST)
From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org>
To: emfguru@hotmail.com
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Hi everybody:
Bertha Dumpe is unhappy (below) about the manner in which her last message
was handled. I don't blame her! I guess I am to blame ... for not
"thinking about" the fact that she is not a member of my list when I
forwarded the subject messages.... And therefore she did not receive
Stewart Fist's commentary.......
Anyway, as I said before, she always has interesting things to say!!!
Bert, forgive me .. and keep em coming.....
For Bert AND Stewart (Fist), I have a new quote for you. [I was saving it
for those "We have all the answers." physicists -- who denigrate the work
of the cell-biologists because the biologists are coming up with
EMF-effects results that do not fit neatly into the _theoretical_ world of
physics.]
Anyway ... here it is:
"We do not know one-millionth of one percent of anything....."
Thomas Edison
Cheerio.......
Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
rbeavers@llion.org..............http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html
................................It is better to light a single candle ...
than to curse the darkness...............................................
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:49:24 -0500
From: Bertha Dumpe
To: rbeavers@llion.org, fist@ozemail.com.au
Subject: Re: Free Zones - more on satellites ETC
(436.3 7-23-1997)) id 852565AE.005D2C73 ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:57:42 -0500
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Roy/FIST: Message forwarded by you from FIST. Through round robin, I
received the e-mail you broadcast to the e-mail "crowd." As a COMMON
COURTESY --ALWAYS, but ALWAYS-- when I mention or speak about anyone
(positive or negative) I copy the subject person. In the case of my e-mail
on hand-held phones to satellite, toroidal antenna, NEWTON'S LAW you
refuted what I said without extending me the COMMON COURTESY of fowarding
me a copy. I had to get your words from a second party.
Mr. Fist: Respectfully, let me quote Roy's byline --IT IS BETTER TO LIGHT A
SINGLE CANDLE THAN TO CURSE THE DARKNESS!!. Kindly digest this statement.
Your e-mail of 14 Feb 1998, Vatlentine's Day (what a hateful thing to be
doing on such a beautiful love day), embraces the DARKNESS!
Newton's Law says EVERY ACTION, not some (like Newton's apple [mass,
matter] which you imply), have an equal and opposite reaction!! It Talk to
the Ntl Bureau of Standards and Measurements of the US Department of
Commerce. They will tell you that when a "magnetic field" is pressed in one
direction a reeaction occurs in the opposite director. For this reason,
years ago, US FDA refused to take a stand to correct EMR in the workplace.
Next generation hand-held digital phones, like the local multipoint
distribution systems (LMDS), the "gift" FCC's Rachelle Chong said she was
giving industry, will function at very high frequencies. Industry wants
hand-held 29 GHx+ to communicate directly with satellites so as to avoid
citizen object to the construction of microwave towers. Government doesn't
know any better and will permit them to do so. Who cares about public
health? And if they listen to folks who state, "To my knowledge there is
only a slight suspician that higher GHz wavelengths of PCS will prove to be
more dangerous thatn the lower MHz of cellphones," the public is in deep
trouble. As Dr. Litovitz and other have discovered by experiment, "60 Hz
causes biological trauma; there's no need to evaluate 915 MHz. Higher
frequencies will multiply biological disorders." There's nothing
phylosophycal about this or Newton's Law. It's common sense. Let me tell
you the only "line-of-sight transmission" cellphones will have with a
satellite is the signal eminating from the user's phone.
Roy/Fist: Do you know that global positioning systems (GPS) does not
communicate well in the shade? Wonder why. Respectfully I state, As a GURU
with complete multidisciplinary knowledge you probably have the anwser. I
can't imagine anyone suggesting that "higher frequencies are less
dangerous." If only we could ressurect Dr. Newton so he can set doubting
thomases straight. How long can Gurus in all sciences (ie, researchers) say
"Frequencies may play a part in biological trauma, but we just don't know?"
If our friends are against us to whom can the ailing public turn?
Mr. Fist: You say, "The toroidal antenna does nothing to reach under the
sea." Be real! Look at the website on toroidal antennas, bythe
manufacturer. It tells you what I said. Toroidal antennas will be installed
everywhere --out of sight-- for the reasons I and the manufacturer stated.
It is recognized that journalists evade reporting the truth about the
hazards of EMR, probably because the media has a tremendous investment in
telecommunications gadgets and services. Be assured that ALL JOURNALISTS of
ALL COUNTRIES are violating the First Amendment or its equivalent
inrespective countries. . The US First Amendment, as do others, state: "For
the privilege of direct communication with the public, which is influenced
by media reports, the broadcast and printed media has the responsibility of
publishing data to which the public would otherwise have NO ACCESS." The
media ONLY broadcasts watered down junk that allays the fears of citizens
to they can remain in business. This is similar to researchers, "finding a
EMR reaction, but more research is needed," which we hear so much about.
Only headless, mindless horsemen can say, "EMR, pulsed or otherwise, may be
a hazard. But we just don't know." When will someone reason the facts?
When people are dead, sterile, handicapped? Look at the pandemic situation
in our high-tech society: infertility, carpal tunnel, alzheimers, breast
and other cancers, etc. etc. Do you know that yesterday's front page story
of the Washington Post states that "Medical doctors are claiming disability
in droves. Insurance companies are taking a beating." Reason? The article
calims physicians are being disabled at a high rate because they don't want
to work, and hate to fill out insurance forms, and no longer want the
hassle." Imagine this nionsense coming from the gurus of insurance heaven!
Don't they know that doctors work with every type of EMR device that was
ever invented?
Let me repeat the words of Dr. Juutilainen at the BEMS board meeting: "In
the end research will prove that EMR is hazardous. I truly believe research
will confirm this." Salient, sane, true point. Science has already proven
EMR is hazardous. That's how we came by having a myriad of high-tech wonder
weapons and tools. Remember the radar operators during WWII? Radarmen
developed cateracts and other disorders. But since radar is so convenient
to track airplanes in peacetime, and so financially rewarding, let's take
the risk and use it. If we disable a few thousand radar users, so what!!
We'll find and train new ones. Responsible parties may think they can
afford, and have the supreme right, to destroy the lives a a technical
minority to reap rewards and cater to the majority. But ultimately they
will learn that a sick and weakened majority is useless to any world
economy. In 1981, US Vice President Gore (then a congressman) told IBM in
response to VDT user maladies, "Let's look at the front-end of this
technology before it permeates the world. If we later find thattechnology
causes biological disorders, irecalling the devices will be like Chinese
water torture Since then Albert Gore became the father of the
super-highway, the father of high-tech. He never heard of Chinese water
torture. Just wait. The perpretrator will fall if only researchers and the
media were honest.
In friendship,
Bert
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