Subject:  Dr. Neil Cherry interview with Linda Howe (Kelley)..
Date:     Mon, 7 Feb 2000 054609 -0600 (CST)
From:     "Roy L. Beavers" 
To:       emfguru 
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Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 18:05:33 -0800
From: Libby Kelley 
To: rbeavers@llion.org
Subject: Dr. Neil Cherry transcript of interview with Linda Howe

Roy:

Linda Moulton ran second interview with Dr. Neil Cherry on the Art Bell 
dreamland show tonight.

Libby Kelley


Microwaves and Cell Phones 
- An Update

                                              
© 2000 by Linda Moulton Howe


                       
February 5, 2000  Christ Church, New Zealand - Since 
my January 30th radio and Earthfiles
reports about the microwave research of Neil Cherry, 
Ph.D., Biophysicist at Lincoln University in
Christ Church, New Zealand, I have received many 
questions from viewers and listeners. Dr.
Cherry considers the proliferation of cell phones, 
microwave towers and microwave pollution to be
a serious contributor to cancer, brain tumors and 
increasing neurological problems among the
human population. Several thousand more microwave 
towers are expected to be built in the United
States in the next few years. The following are a 
series of audience questions and Dr. Cherry's
responses this week.

             Interview
Neil Cherry, Ph.D., Biophysicist, Lincoln University 
in Christ Church, New Zealand:

1. Even if the cell phone itself is shielded, isn't 
the antennae the source of most of the offending
radiation? Is there a way to shield it, too?

Dr. Cherry: "The antenna of the mobile phone travels 
down the length of the hand piece. To shield
the user from this, the body of the phone and the 
antenna need to be shielded. There is at least one
such shield on the market (Microshield) which 
encases the handset in a metal grid which is
embedded in the leather pouch. It has a sliding 
extension which goes up the aerial on the head side,
thus protecting the user's head from more than 95% 
of the radiation."

2. Does it help to use a remote mike and earpiece?

Dr. Cherry: "The hand-free kit does help a great 
deal by keeping most of the radiation from the
user's head. But don't keep the phone in a breast 
pocket or on your belt near your liver, kidneys,
womb or testes because the microwave radiation can 
break chromosomes wherever they are."

3. Did the studies find if there is a threshold at 
which the radiation becomes harmful? Or is being on
your phone just a few minutes a month as bad over time?

Dr. Cherry: "We do not know of a threshold. However, 
risk is proportional to accumulated usage.
Any reduction in number of calls, length of calls, 
hands free use and so on reduces risk."

4. Can a person minimize the damage by making the 
call as brief as possible?

Dr. Cherry: "Yes, a person can minimize damage by 
using only brief calls."

5. What is the best material to use for shielding 
from microwave and other forms of electromagnetic
radiation?

Dr. Cherry: "Distance is good. A fine metal mesh can 
provide significant shielding from UHF and
microwave radiation. That is why microwave ovens 
have a metal grill over the glass door. If the
holes are much smaller than the wavelength of the 
radiation, it is a good shield. The shield works
mainly by reflection."

6. Are there any nutritional supplements that can 
help repair the damage to the human body?

Dr. Cherry: "Good fresh fruit and vegetables are 
full of anti-oxidants which are essential for
repairing the body. Melatonin is a potent free 
radical scavenger. A good night's sleep produces
good melatonin. Unfortunately as we age, we have 
lower and lower natural melatonin which causes
accelerated cell death and cell damage. This is why 
cancer rates rise very significantly after 65
years. It is also the cause of neurological 
degeneration and disease."

7. I would like to know if the new digital phones 
are also microwave band phones, or are they
different? What disadvantages might there be in 
using them?

Dr. Cherry: "The new digital phones are microwave. 
The signal is pulsed to produce the digital
signal. Pulses are shown to be worse than continuous 
waves in causing cell damage and cancer."

8. What is the brand name of a cell phone 
manufacturer trying to provide more shielding?

Dr. Cherry: "The brand name of a low emission phone 
is Nokya, a very large Finnish mobile phone
manufacturer in Europe."

9. Could you address the issue of computers and 
cordless phones? My children spend hours writing
reports and doing homework on the computer, not to 
mention games and surfing the web, and I am
concerned about what potential health hazards this 
may pose. I also have a cordless phone and was
wondering if you are exposed to microwaves using a 
cordless phone?

Dr. Cherry: "Computers: There is a wide range of low 
frequency and radio frequency radiation
from computer screens. Modern screens have much 
lower emission levels than older computers.
The computer I am using to send this e-mail to you 
is producing 35 microwatts/sq. cm. at the
screen which reduces to 0.05 at my head and at womb 
level. This is radio frequency radiation
which penetrates tissue more effectively than low 
frequency fields. With home computers and
children starting very early, it is a real worry 
because a U. S. study, Beall et al (1996)
Epidemiology 7 (2): pages 125-130, shows that 
computer programmers develop and die more
from brain tumors, with the rate increasing with the 
years of work:

                       a) Up to 5 years exposure, OR = 0.6  95% CI: 0.2-1.9

                       b) 5 to 9 years exposure, OR = 1.9  95% CI: 0.7-5.2

                       c) 10 years or more, OR = 2.8  95% CI: 1.1-7.0

Since our brains detect and use very low frequency 
signals from the Schumann Resonances, which
have a mean intensity of about 0.0000001 
microwatts/sq. cm. (0.1 picowatts/sq. cm.), it is not
surprising that at exposures which are millions of 
times higher, there is increased brain cell damage
and an increased risk of brain tumor in a 
dose-response manner. This kind of result is indicative of
cause and effect.

Portable phones (not cell phones) use a high 
frequency radio signal which isn't too far from the
mobile phone frequency, but are much less powerful 
than mobile cell phones. So they do expose
our heads to measurable RF radiation. Hence, 
portable non-cell phones are low risk, but not risk
free. Some people report a 'fuzzy head' after a long 
call on a portable phone.

Cell phone users describe dose-response symptoms of 
dizziness, loss of memory and concentration
and headaches. Some people also report nausea. This 
probably is caused by differential heating of
fluid in the middle ear affecting the balance 
mechanism."




                       California Council on Wireless Technology Impacts
                       Contact: Libby Kelley, libbykelley@ccwti.org
                       Web Site: http://www.ccwti.org/
                       PH: 415-892-1863 and FAX: 415-892-3108


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Copyright © 2000 Linda Moulton Howe
                               



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