Subject: Re Home (rural) ELF wiring problems (Hanscom)(Blackhall).
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 163531 -0600
From: Roy Beavers
To: guru
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Subject: Re: Home (rural) ELF wiring problems (Hanscom)..
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:48:41 -0800
From: "Larry Blackhall"
To:
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Roy
Thanks to Gail for putting her letter in such easily comprehensive form.
Communication is the beginning of knowledge.
Please give some consideration to my thoughts on ECT - Electro Convulsive
Therapy.An article in the feb 26 issue of Time magazine 'New sparks over
electroshock' on p46 has pretty much consolidated my concerns.
The difference between Cell phone technology and ECT is a myth. It is the same
thing.Emf radiated into the skull with total disregard for the damage being
done.A 'wake-up' is long overdue. illigitimus non carborundum eh ?
aye
larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Roy Beavers
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 3:43 AM
Subject: Home (rural) ELF wiring problems (Hanscom)..
...........From EMF-L........
Folks, I don't think we have EVER had a better description (and
analysis) of the kind of ELF 'wiring problems' that can occur in a
residential home than you will read below. It provides a really
good picture of what the Blue Worldcan be like when improper
grounding and wiring -- by the power company or in the home,
itself -- creates muliple flow ground currents and magnetic fields.
It will require the opinion of some of our expert wiring people
to judge how accurately Gail has analyzed the problem below --
but she has done a better job than I could have ... and she has done
a beautiful job of writing it up, too.........guru.......
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Subject: grounding sequence in emf problems
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:37:46 -0700
From: "gailhanscom"
To: , ,
,,
Thanks to some research on emfguru and locally, I now have a grounding
sequence all the way from inside our house to the substation, related
to the neutral from the power company. This sequence, or parts
thereof, should apply to almost any emf pollution, with special
benefit in rural areas, and will, hopefully, provide a fairly simple
and generalizeable pathway for deciphering the legal side of
liability...
1. Inside the house we had plastic water pipes, on which the
plastic gas pipes depend for bond, which were not grounded back
through the breaker box per NEC code. Plastic is permeable to fields
(and we had fields especially in the gas lines) and is a
non-conductor, so that any stray electricity inside those pipes comes
right on through - into the yard, the shower, etc. Di-electrics do
not stop the millivolts and milliamps, we are told.
2. We had extra ground rods installed by our Cable TV company and
by USWEST/QWEST which violated at least state code for one and only
one outlet, to prevent alternate pathways and stray currents between
ground rods. Also, ground rods closer together than 5-6 feet affect
fields, causing overalapping, induction and "convolution".
3. From the house to the 220 pedestal, we had a derated neutral
from our power company, which is known since 1989-92 in EPRI seminars
to cause a loss of per cent of return to system and an increase in
field potential on all five metal outlets of a house, when an
adjoining house on the same pedestal uses as little as a 1200w
hairdryer. Derated neutrals are standard installation for buried
service (and some overhead service) all over the nation, as power
companies have chosen to ignore the warning from EPRI that they be
discontinued and NEC code be changed. One engineer locally helped
write the math (not that hard) to prove it was the neutral which was
failing. Our derated neutral was replaced 21/2 years ago, three days
after we requested it citing the EPRI workshops. Cathodic engineers
know that all it takes to start a stray current is a derated neutral
next to a buried fuel tank; the mass of stray currents loose in the
ground parallel historically the beginning of the use of the derated
neutrals. Derated neutrals have been only in residential use until
now, but they are starting to be used commercially.
4. The replacement wire we received from PNM in place of the
derated neutral was three equal conductors, but it was sloppily
installed. There was failure to tape the wires close enough together
and the wire was too long, resulting in "spaghetti coils" in our yard
which emitted 100mG fields (averaged, on TriField) into the air above
the sand and invaded the other two wire utilities. Copper sulfate
reference grounding with coper sulfate anodes on long leads (to study
ambient field) proved that as little as 6 gallons of irrigation water
pulled currents off the pedestal onto our property. Direct buried
wires are known by EPRI to generate more fields than other
installations. PNM came out again and rectified their wire to our
house so that 1 milligauss or less is now above the soil at the
entrance to the house, which is the figure we discussed as being
litigated around the country. Improvements in phone and cable are
parallel.
5. The 7200v loop wire for our street was found to have been
installed on our private property rather than in the city easement,
and PNM has agreed to move that wire also. Fields above the 7200v
wire are usually 3mG waist high, though they rise to 7-8 during
suppertime or other heavy use on the line. Millivolts can also be read
in the air on a digital multimeter; a local forensic engineer said
that showed PNM "was not grounded", allowing pathways of stray voltage
to be read on top of buried wires, without the need for a locator
device. Increased voltages and amperages parallel the field readings,
and the amperages are actually the easiest way to track the stray
voltage pathways, right in the air, like the millivolts. We easily
showed a background of .01A (appropriate for the seizures which killed
our dog) or .02A (my fibrillation), rising to .09 with watering the
lawn, or .29 after surges, with .005 in a circuit known to be lethal
(compare also Dr. Dahlberg's comment that the earth is one pole of a
battery, and the barefooted homeowner who received so many shocks - we
wear rubber and magnets to go out in our yard).
6. The 7200v wire is bonded into the 220 derated wires at the
transformers, which, in turn, are bonded into the other wire
utilities. This means, as PNM is "naked to the substation" without
suppression of any kind, that every surge (every time they change
phase) has a wire pathway (with loss of per cent of return at least on
the low voltage side) all the way back to my ac meter and out my
grounding system (emfguru). Indeed, we have tracked fields migrating
along ground wires in from the ac meter, in the ground wire to the
furnace/water pipes, out the ground wire to the ground rods, and into
the other wire utilities (TriField). Equipment malfunction and loss
are easy to tie to these readings; health (esp. via voltages through
heart, brain, etc. on multimeter) are equally easy to find. Heavy
magnetic shielding (cow magnets, ferrous) show that when the fields
(and stray currents generated by the fields) go down, the machines and
the people recover. . Per emfguru, this bond is not required by NEC
or NESC, and can be disconnected (indeed has already been demonstrated
to be of benefit if disconnected). If moving the 7200v wire does not
quiet our house, we will ask PNM to begin disconnecting the optional
bond.
7. Substations also malfunction; for a while we had meg ohms
apparently related to phase imbalances. The local cable tv could not
protect their equipment from damage when the "naked" substation
adjacent hiccupped. Substation problems in our neighborhood are a
matter of repair records at Cable TV. So, what we have here, from the
tiniest code violation inside our house to the largest power
variations from the substation, is a trail of grounding code and
wires. Finally there is no missing piece in the series, and the
currents can be shown in the street, coming onto private property,
entering all utilities inside the house, and entering body tissues.
When currents and fields from the street go way down, fields from
other equipment in the house goes way down, showing clearly that not
all problems with emf collecting inside the house are what they seem.
I would think we've done about enough to move this thing legally for a
lot of people (please do correct and advance us also where we have
overlooked). Local advice here was a class action starting in
Sandoval County, NM and spreading out nationwide. We only need twenty
people to begin to make things feasible financially. We're sharing
and asking. I'll be glad to coach others how to measure and
document. We've done well enough to get the utilities to listen and
do as we ask. Are others ready to come with us?
Thank you, Roy (and all who have helped), for letting me talk to you
and yours...and for having the remaining pieces ready and waiting for
me and mine.
gailhanscom@netzero.net
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-------- Original Message --------
| Subject: |
Re: Home (rural) ELF wiring problems (Hanscom).. |
| Date: |
Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:48:41 -0800 |
| From: |
"Larry Blackhall" <larryblackhall1@home.com> |
| To: |
<roy@emfguru.com> |
| CC: |
<gailhanscom@netzero.net> |
| References: |
<3A98EFF7.92533AF1@emfguru.com> |
Roy
Thanks
to Gail for putting her letter in such easily comprehensive form. Communication
is the beginning of knowledge.
Please
give some consideration to my thoughts on ECT - Electro Convulsive Therapy.An
article in the feb 26 issue of Time magazine 'New sparks over electroshock'
on p46 has pretty much consolidated my concerns.
The
difference between Cell phone technology and ECT is a myth. It is the same
thing.Emf radiated into
the skull with total disregard for the damage being done.A
'wake-up' is long overdue. illigitimus non carborundum eh ?
aye
larry
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 3:43
AM
Subject: Home (rural) ELF wiring problems
(Hanscom)..
...........From EMF-L........
Folks, I don't think we have EVER had a better description (and
analysis) of the kind of ELF 'wiring problems' that can occur in a
residential home than you will read below. It provides a really
good picture of what the Blue Worldcan
be like when improper
grounding and wiring -- by the power company
or in the home,
itself -- creates muliple flow ground currents
and magnetic fields.
It will require the opinion of some of our expert
wiring people
to judge how accurately Gail has analyzed the
problem below --
but she has done a better job than I could have
... and she has done
a beautiful job of writing it up, too.........guru.......
-------- Original Message --------
| Subject: |
grounding sequence in emf problems |
| Date: |
Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:37:46 -0700 |
| From: |
"gailhanscom" <gailhanscom@netzero.net> |
| To: |
<roy@emfguru.com>, <cyril.smith@which.net>, <EMFEFFECTS@aol.com>,<jprotsman@lakefield.net>,
<cgorman@ehcd.com> |
Thanks to some research
on emfguru and locally, I now have a grounding sequence all the
way from inside our house to the substation, related to the neutral
from the power company. This sequence, or parts thereof, should apply
to almost any emf pollution, with special benefit in rural areas, and will,
hopefully, provide a fairly simple and generalizeable pathway for deciphering
the legal side of liability...
1. Inside the house
we had plastic water pipes, on which the plastic gas pipes depend for bond,
which were not grounded back through the breaker box per NEC code.
Plastic is permeable to fields (and we had fields especially in the gas
lines) and is a non-conductor, so that any stray electricity inside those
pipes comes right on through - into the yard, the shower, etc. Di-electrics
do not stop the millivolts and milliamps, we are told.
2. We had extra ground
rods installed by our Cable TV company and by USWEST/QWEST which violated
at least state code for one and only one outlet, to prevent alternate pathways
and stray currents between ground rods. Also, ground rods closer
together than 5-6 feet affect fields, causing overalapping, induction and
"convolution".
3. From the house
to the 220 pedestal, we had a derated neutral from our power company, which
is known since 1989-92 in EPRI seminars to cause a loss of per cent of
return to system and an increase in field potential on all five metal outlets
of a house, when an adjoining house on the same pedestal uses as little
as a 1200w hairdryer. Derated neutrals are standard installation
for buried service (and some overhead service) all over the nation, as
power companies have chosen to ignore the warning from EPRI that they be
discontinued and NEC code be changed. One engineer locally helped
write the math (not that hard) to prove it was the neutral which was failing.
Our derated neutral was replaced 21/2 years ago, three days after we requested
it citing the EPRI workshops. Cathodic engineers know that all it
takes to start a stray current is a derated neutral next to a buried fuel
tank; the mass of stray currents loose in the ground parallel historically
the beginning of the use of the derated neutrals. Derated neutrals
have been only in residential use until now, but they are starting to be
used commercially.
4. The replacement
wire we received from PNM in place of the derated neutral was three equal
conductors, but it was sloppily installed. There was failure to tape
the wires close enough together and the wire was too long, resulting in
"spaghetti coils" in our yard which emitted 100mG fields (averaged, on
TriField) into the air above the sand and invaded the other two wire utilities.
Copper sulfate reference grounding with coper sulfate anodes on long leads
(to study ambient field) proved that as little as 6 gallons of irrigation
water pulled currents off the pedestal onto our property. Direct
buried wires are known by EPRI to generate more fields than other installations.
PNM came out again and rectified their wire to our house so that 1 milligauss
or less is now above the soil at the entrance to the house, which is the
figure we discussed as being litigated around the country. Improvements
in phone and cable are parallel.
5. The 7200v loop
wire for our street was found to have been installed on our private property
rather than in the city easement, and PNM has agreed to move that wire
also. Fields above the 7200v wire are usually 3mG waist high, though
they rise to 7-8 during suppertime or other heavy use on the line. Millivolts
can also be read in the air on a digital multimeter; a local forensic
engineer said that showed PNM "was not grounded", allowing pathways of
stray voltage to be read on top of buried wires, without the need for a
locator device. Increased voltages and amperages parallel the field
readings, and the amperages are actually the easiest way to track
the stray voltage pathways, right in the air, like the millivolts.
We easily showed a background of .01A (appropriate for the seizures which
killed our dog) or .02A (my fibrillation), rising to .09 with watering
the lawn, or .29 after surges, with .005 in a circuit known to be
lethal (compare also Dr. Dahlberg's comment that the earth is one pole
of a battery, and the barefooted homeowner who received so many shocks
- we wear rubber and magnets to go out in our yard).
6. The 7200v wire
is bonded into the 220 derated wires at the transformers, which, in turn,
are bonded into the other wire utilities. This means, as PNM is "naked
to the substation" without suppression of any kind, that every surge (every
time they change phase) has a wire pathway (with loss of per cent of return
at least on the low voltage side) all the way back to my ac meter and out
my grounding system (emfguru). Indeed, we have tracked fields migrating
along ground wires in from the ac meter, in the ground wire to the furnace/water
pipes, out the ground wire to the ground rods, and into the other wire
utilities (TriField). Equipment malfunction and loss are easy to
tie to these readings; health (esp. via voltages through heart, brain,
etc. on multimeter) are equally easy to find. Heavy magnetic shielding
(cow magnets, ferrous) show that when the fields (and stray currents generated
by the fields) go down, the machines and the people recover. .
Per emfguru, this bond is not required by NEC or NESC, and can be disconnected
(indeed has already been demonstrated to be of benefit if disconnected).
If moving the 7200v wire does not quiet our house, we will ask PNM to begin
disconnecting the optional bond.
7. Substations also
malfunction; for a while we had meg ohms apparently related to phase imbalances.
The local cable tv could not protect their equipment from damage when the
"naked" substation adjacent hiccupped. Substation problems in our
neighborhood are a matter of repair records at Cable TV.
So, what we have here, from the tiniest
code violation inside our house to the largest power variations from the
substation, is a trail of grounding code and wires. Finally there
is no missing piece in the series, and the currents can be shown in the
street, coming onto private property, entering all utilities inside
the house, and entering body tissues. When currents and fields from
the street go way down, fields from other equipment in the house goes way
down, showing clearly that not all problems with emf collecting inside
the house are what they seem. I
would think we've done about enough to move this thing legally for a lot
of people (please do correct and advance us also where we have overlooked).
Local advice here was a class action starting in Sandoval County, NM and
spreading out nationwide. We only need twenty people to begin to
make things feasible financially. We're sharing and asking.
I'll be glad to coach others how to measure and document. We've done
well enough to get the utilities to listen and do as we ask. Are
others ready to come with us?
Thank you, Roy (and all who have helped),
for letting me talk to you and yours...and for having the remaining pieces
ready and waiting for me and mine.
gailhanscom@netzero.net
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