Subject: A repeat message -- the Vienna group statment (Guru)..
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 092738 -0600 (CST)
From: "Roy L. Beavers"
To: emfguru
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......The recent question about John Moulder -- his independence or
industry-lackey status -- made me go in search of the following
message (found it in our archives, quickly, I used "Vienna" to search)
posted in October 1998..... It totally refutes the whole of
Moulder's website..... Because Moulder does not recognize such
information as legitimate to the issue..... He narrowly defines the
"science" he will recognize as that which has been peer reviewed and
replicated..... (And, clearly he chooses to ignore the epidemiology.)
That is a good standard for deciding such scientific questions as the
"big bang" theory, but it is a totally unsuited standard for matters
having to do with risks to public health -- where one is in the
gray-area of uncertainties for decades..... Meanwhile ... people
are dying......
Moreover, there is little justification for Moulder to totally ignore
the list of genuine **active** scientific EMF researchers listed below!!!
(Moulder is not an active researcher himself.....!!)
The kind of work that came out of the October 1998 Vienna Workshop is
the stuff ALL of us (including our governments) should be paying attention
to.....!!!
Cheerio.....
Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
roy@emfguru.com
.....It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness.....
NEW!!! Website
...................People are more important than profits.................
DO YOU KNOW OF OTHERS WHO SHOULD BE ON THIS LIST??
Subject: RF electromagnetic fields, "bio-effects are scientifically ,
established"....
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 202336 -0600 (CST)
From: "Roy L. Beavers"
To: emfguru
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Hi everybody:
Stewart has forwarded quite an interesting document below.....
"....biological effects from low-intensity exposures are scientifically
established." The group that has published that statement includes a
number of scientists we know; Carl Blackman, Henry Lai, Neil Cherry,
Ted Litovitz, Kjell Hansson Mild..... See below.
That statement is from a resolution coming out of the 'Mobile Phones and
Health Symposium' recently concluded in Vienna, Austria....
Also note that this group issues a call for "public participation in the
process." Yes ... the PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW.... Have you heard
that before?
Cheerio....(Thanks Stewart!!!)
Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
rbeavers@llion.org..............http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html
................................It is better to light a single candle ...
than to curse the darkness...............................................
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:54:34 +1100
From: Stewart Fist
To: rbeavers@llion.org,
emfacts@zeus.tassie.net.au
Subject: Re: cellular phone/cancer connection
Here's a new statement from a group of (mainly) European researchers:
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Mobile Phones and Health, Symposium,
October 25-28, 1998,
University of Vienna, Austria
Workshop on possible biological and health effects of RF electromagnetic
fields
Vienna EMF-Resolution
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The preferred terminology to used in public communication:
Instead of using the terms "athermal", "nonthermal" or "microthermal"
effects, the term "low intensity biological effects" is more appropriate.
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Preamble: The participants agreed that biological effects from
low-intensity exposures are scientifically established. However, the
current state of scientific consensus is inadequate to derive reliable
exposure standards. The existing evidence demands an increase in the
research efforts on the possible health impact and on an adequate exposure
and dose assessment.
Base stations: How could satisfactory Public Participation be ensured?
The public should be given timely participation in the process. This should
include information on technical and exposure data as well as information on
the status of the health debate. Public participation in the decision (limits,
siting, etc.) should be enabled.
Cellular phones: How could the situation of the users be improved?
Technical data should be made available to the users to allow comparison with
respect to EMF-exposure. In order to promote prudent usage, sufficient
information on the health debate should be provided. This procedure should
offer opportunities for the users to manage reduction in EMF-exposure. In
addition, this process could stimulate further developments of low-intensity
emission devices.
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For Biomedical and Risk Research:
* Carl Blackman, Environmental Protection Agency, USA,
Blackman.Carl@epamail.epa.gov
* Neil J. Cherry, Lincoln University, New Zealand,
cherry@kea.lincoln.ac.nz
* G. Käs, Bundeswehrhochschule Neubiberg, Deutschland
* Lebrecht von Klitzing, Universität Lübeck, Deutschland,
klitzing@medinf-mu-luebeck.de
* Wolfgang Kromp, Inst. f. Risikoforschung, Universität Wien,
wolfgang.kromp@irf.univie.ac.at
* Michael Kundi, Inst. f. Umwelthygiene, Universität Wien,
umwelthygiene@univie.ac.at
* Henry Lai, University of Washington, USA, hlai@u.washington.edu
* William Leiss, Queens University, Kanada, leiss@saltspring.com
* Theodore Litovitz, Catholic University of America, USA, litovitz@cua.edu
* Kjell Hansson Mild, National Institute for Working Life, Sweden,
mild@niwl.se
* Wilhelm Mosgöller, Inst. f. Histologie u. Embryologie, Universität
Wien, wilhelm.mosgoeller@univie.ac.at
* Joachim Röschke, Psychiatrische Klinik, Universität Mainz, Deutschland,
roeschke@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de
* Felix Schinner, Inst. f. Risikoforschung, Universität Wien,
felix.schinner@irf.univie.ac.at
* Stanislaw Szmiegielski, Militärinstitut für Hygiene und Epidemiologie,
Polen, szmigielski@wihe.waw.pl
* Luc Verschaeve, Div. of Energy and Environm. Research, V.I.T.O., Mol.,
Belgium, verschal@vito.be
* Ulrich Warnke, Universität des Saarlandes, Deutschland,
warnke@rz.uni-sb.de
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Stewart Fist - writer and columnist
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