Subject: EMF/hearing problems (Chen)(Maxey)(Curry)..
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 115811 -0600 (CST)
From: "Roy L. Beavers"
To: emfguru
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:54:08 -0600
From: "Bill P. Curry"
To: "Roy L. Beavers"
Subject: Re: EMF/hearing problems (Chen)(Maxey)..
Roy,
I have one anecdote to contribute to the discussion of human sensitivity to
electric and magnetic fields. I met both Robert Riedlinger and Milt Bowling
at the California Council on Wireless Technology which met in Tiburon,
California last year. They had driven down from Vancouver, B.C., Canada. I
had my RF survey meter with me and was making some measurements in the church
in which we were meeting. This is the church from which Libby Kelley's group
had successfully evicted the concealed cellular phone antenna, only to be
confronted with it installed in a commercial building across the street.
Because the area is full of RF signals from FM stations, TV stations,
emergency communications, cell phone base stations, and microcells, Libby's
church had a variety of strong RF signals coming through it in different
directions. Bob Riedlinger told me that he could feel strong RF radiation in
several different areas, and I checked with my meter and found that he had
indeed located the directions in which the measured radiation density was
strongest. I didn't record these readings, but I remember that his feelings
and the meter agreed in regard to locating the maxima.
Roy L. Beavers wrote:
>
> .......In any case,it seems like a good idea for SOMEONE to check this
> out.... And, of course there is the question: why do some people
> seem to be more readily affected than others???
>
> Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
> roy@emfguru.com
>
> .....It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness.....
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> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:22:30 -0600
> From: Edward Maxey
> To: "Roy L. Beavers"
> Subject: Re: EMF/hearing problems (Chen)..
>
> Hello Roy,
>
> It seems to me that one might take good advantage of a group of people who
> could reliably sense the RF of microwave cell masts. If in a controlled
> research setting such people could demonstrate, in a double blind protocol,
> that they did indeed sense this RF one would have established that there is a
> physiological mechanism at play. One might even determine the lower limits at
> which such RF electromagnetic waves can be detected by the electrosensitive
> group.
>
> Mad dog attorneys could have a field day with such data.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Ed Maxey
>
> Roy L. Beavers wrote:
>
> > .......After a long silence, pleased to hear from Dr. Chen in Taiwan....
> >
> > Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
> > roy@emfguru.com
> >
> > .....It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness.....
> > NEW!!! Website
> > ...................People are more important than profits.................
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:23:57 +0800
> > From: th chen
> > To: "Roy L. Beavers"
> > Subject: Re: New member reports "new" symptom?? (Tso)..
> >
> > Hi Guru:
> >
> > One of my colleagues lost her hearing completely in one ear and partially
> > in another two years ago. Her office sit right above the transformer of
> > our building. I checked the magnetic field and found out it was 30 mG at
> > the desk level and 50 mG at ground level. After this incidence, two
> > colleagues at other buildings with hearing problems borrowed my meter and
> > found high magnetic field near their desks. There is another case. A
> > colleague found out he could not sleep well and often waken by nightmare
> > when lying down on the couch facing one direction but sleep well facing the
> > other. He borrowed my meter and found high magnetic field near the end
> > causing the sleeping problem. It seems that the EMF might affect hearing
> > more frequently than we thought.
> >
> > Tsung-Hsien
> >
> > >Hi everybody:
> > >
> > >......I am broadcasting this to the full list because I feel that
> > >there will be others who would like to correspond in response to
> > >this message..... If the symptom reported is EMF "induced," it
> > >seems to me that the anecdotal info we have on similar conditions
> > >suggests that they tend to "clear up" when removed from the EMF source???
> > >
> > >The exposure level Robert reports is certainly sufficient to result in
> > >bioeffects..... Perhpas others that he is not yet aware of???
> > >
> > >Cheerio..... (Thanks for-your message, Robert, and welcome!!)
> > >
> > >Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
> > >roy@emfguru.com
> > >
> > >.....It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness.....
> > > NEW!!! Website
> > >...................People are more important than profits.................
> > >
> > > DO YOU KNOW OF OTHERS WHO SHOULD BE ON THIS LIST????
> > >
> > >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:10:18 -0800
> > >From: Robert Tso
> > >To: "'rbeavers@mail.llion.org'"
> > >Subject: References maybe?
> > >
> > >Dear Roy (EMFguru),
> > >
> > > Thank you for your excellent web page expressing your expert views of the
> > >EMF sitituation, in "Blue World".
> > >
> > > I am 41, in good general health, but 2 months ago, I came down with
> > >sudden sensorineural hearing loss in my left ear. Blood and MRI tests
> > >came back negative. No brain tumor. The etiology for my sudden loss of
> > >hearing is idiopathic, i.e. the cause is unknown and cannot be determined
> > >according to standard medical practice.
> > >
> > > I am a scientist of sorts (electronics engineer 20 yrs.) and based on
> > >what I have learned from reading the literature on EMF effects, I would
> > >postulate that EMF exposure may have been a contributing factor in the
> > >cause of my current affliction.
> > >
> > > I found that I have been sleeping with my head next to an old clock
> > >radio, which contains an ac motor. I measured the magnetic field to be
> > >30 mG at the distance my head has been sleeping at, for about 7 years.
> > >Coincidentally, (or maybe not) the clock was positioned on my left side,
> > >and it is my left ear that suddenly became quite deaf and suffers from
> > >tinnitus (perceived sounds of whining, and tinkling.)
> > >
> > >Do you know of any scientific research that has focused on EMFs causing
> > >nerve dysfunction? I have read that EMFs can induce tumors on the optic
> > >nerve, so i ask myself, "why not the auditory nerve too? or perhaps a
> > >tumor in the cochlea?"
> > >
> > >My mission is two-fold:
> > >
> > >1. Find a cure for my ailment. (I know this is almost impossible.)
> > >2. Find the cause of my ailment, and warn others, to prevent them from
> > >suffering my fate.
> > >
> > >Maybe you can give me a reference that might help lead my efforts to
> > >success.
> > >
> > >Sincerely Thankful for any info or leads,
> > >
> > >-Robert Tso
> > >
> > >PS. Please "reply to all" when responding. Thanks.
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