Subject: Dahlberg testimony allowed (Hardie). Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 162842 -0600 From: Roy BeaversTo: guru -------------------------------------------------- This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EC0E87C17A2DB2A25C079962 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody: It seems that an honest judge has been found -- one who is not ALREADY in the pocket of industry...... I am sure that the electrical industry is going to DENY the Blue World until they are "blue in the face" themselves..... When you take a job in that industry (as I have), you learn to recite THE ELECTRIC INDUSTRY 'catechism' which includes -- among a number of other "oddball" rote recitations -- the proclamation that: No evidence about the health dangers of EMF is admissible in court ... unless it has been blessed by the electrical/physics 'science' community. Only "their" scientists can understand electricity, they believe. They do not even give a "wink" to the notion that the IMPORTANT science in these EMF/health issues may be medical, biological, chemical (bioelectrical) sciences ... rather than the stuff of the IEEE...... Of course, the electrical industry does not even acknowledge that epidemiology is a part of science. Anyway, it is reassuring to see that Dr. Dahlberg will be allowed to "educate them" about the behavior and hazards of stray voltages -- another part of the ELECTRICAL INDUSTRY catechism: There is not such a thing as "stray voltage." But one can hope that such denials -- bordering on self-hypnosis -- will end once the testimonials of the many, many public and animal experiences are shown to a jury of free men/women...... Cheerio...... Roy Beavers(EMFguru) roy@emfguru.com It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness.. WEBSITE: http://emfguru.com PEOPLE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN PROFIT$$ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: power line testimony update Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:31:00 -0600 From: Chris Hardie Organization: La Crosse Tribune To: Roy Beavers Roy: I've posted a story on www.strayvoltage.org about rulings made last week in the Arrowhead-Weston proposed power line technical hearings being held in Madison, Wis. Some testimony in the case concerning stray voltage and other electrical phenomena by Duane Dahlberg was kept in the case -- for now. Judge Janine Geske ruled against a motion from utility lawyers to dismiss Dahlberg's testimony. Testimony and arguments about stray voltage is expected towards the end of the technical hearing, which may last a month. -- Chris Hardie La Crosse Tribune Local News and Online Content Editor chardie@lacrossetribune.com (608) 791-8218; fax (608) 782-9723 http://www.lacrossetribune.com http://www.strayvoltage.org --------------EC0E87C17A2DB2A25C079962 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name="9.php3" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline; filename="9.php3" StrayVoltage.org - Judge admits stray voltage testimony in pow= er line hearings <= tr>
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[ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ Discussion Board ]Posted by Chris Hardie on January 09, 2101 at 20:14:24:
Stray voltage testimony to remain in power line hearings
By CHRIS HARD= IE
Local news editor
MADISON, Wis. -- Testimony from one of the key= witnesses for a group fighting a major transmission line proposal across= northern Wisconsin will be allowed, subject to later scrutiny, a judge h= as ruled.
Janine Geske, a former Wisconsin Supreme Court judge, ruled = Jan. 3 that testimony filed by Duane Dahlberg, a retired professor from M= oorhead, Minn., would be allowed. Dahlberg is one of the main witnesses f= or Citizens United for Responsible Electricity, a group that is fighting = the proposed Arrowhead-Weston power line on the basis of health effects. = Dahlberg has filed 23 pages of testimony in the case, which was challenge= d on a motion from utility lawyers Deb Amberg of Minnesota Power Co. and = Trevor Will of Wisconsin Public Service Corp.
Both utilities are aski= ng the Wisconsin Public Service Commission for approval to construct a hi= gh voltage electrical transmission line located in St. Louis County, Minn= =2E, and the Wisconsin counties of Chippewa, Clark, Douglas, Lincoln, Mar= athon, Oneida, Price, Rusk, Sawyer, Taylor and Washburn.
Proponents o= f the 345-kilovolt power line say it is necessary to meet the growing dem= ands for electricity in Wisconsin. Opponents say it will devalue property= or have adverse effects on some of the pristine areas of northern Wiscon= sin. Others say it will increase stray voltage or have other harmful envi= ronmental effects.
Technical hearings for the power line began Jan. 4 = and are expected to continue for at least a month in Madison. The final d= ecision on whether to approve the power line will then go before the PSC,= which has no timetable for arriving at a decision.
In his testimony,= Dahlberg said the transmission line is a grounded-wye and would increase= the amount of earth currents in the ground, which he said would increase= the health risks to animals and humans.
Dahlberg's work has been att= acked by utilities before. An Iowa court ruled in a stray voltage case th= at Dahlberg's testimony in that case was not credible.
"Two courts hav= e ruled that he has unproven theories and should be properly excluded," A= mberg said on Jan. 3. "There is no scientific basis for his theories."
But Carol Overland, an attorney for CURE, said that Amberg was taking Da= hlberg's testimony out of context. "Utilities are very fond of saying tha= t an expert has to prove to a scientific certainty that something exists,= " Overland said. "Experts are allowed to extrapolate from the evidence."<= br>Overland also said a similar proposal to dismiss Dahlberg's testimony = was introduced in Minnesota, where it was also rejected.
Geske, in rul= ing against the utility motion to strike Dahlberg's testimony, said there= will opportunity to question him in direct testimony. She said if Dahlbe= rg's testimony is not found to be useful to the fact-finders (the PSC com= missioners), then it can be excluded later.
Dahlberg is the last of 53= scheduled witnesses in the technical hearings, which will include testim= ony about whether the proposed line will increase stray voltage cases. St= even Schott of Wisconsin Public Service Corp. has filed testimony saying = that in WPSC's current 124 miles of 345 KV transmission lines, the utilit= y has recorded only one case where the lines resulted in elevated levels = of stray voltage. That occurred where distribution lines to a farmer bein= g adjacent and parallel to the transmission line, which elevated the prim= ary neutral voltage on the distribution line through induction.
Schott= testified that WPSC was able to solve the problem by moving the distribu= tion line and placing it underground.
Also expected to testify in the = hearings regarding stray voltage is Patricia Hoben, who worked with the M= innesota Science Advisers and will testify against Dahlberg, and Theresa = Peterson, a veterinarian who has treated cows exposed to stray voltage. Steven Bircher, an Eau Claire chiropractor, will testify about human h= ealth effects, while John Moulder of the Medical College of Wisconsin is = expected to testify to the contrary.