Subject: No sympathy!! (Raunio).
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 154340 -0600
From: Roy Beavers
To: guru
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Magda:
Tell your Canadian friends that we have no sympathy with their desire to profiteer at
the expense of our readers...... Some of us lose $$thousand$$ per year through our
non-reimbursed (non expense account) activities on this matter.........guru...... (We
don't
even get the TAX DEDUCTIONS which the industry gets...... On this subject activity.)
.......EVERYBODY: Forward to your congressman......!!
Those huge staffs -- lawyers, PR people, lobbysists -- are all TAX DEDUCTIBLE
to industry...... Virtually ALL of the scientists and other CONFLICT OF INTEREST
people I met at the various meetings -- were on expense accounts......... I was not......
I can afford it..... But many of my readers cannot.........guru.......
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Subject: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Our Concern
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 14:00:28 -0600
From: Darlene Raunio
To: guru@emfguru.com
Roy,
I saw on your mailing list about Magda's papers but I could not download hers that she'd
sent me (the abstract - 1 pg., yes). I go to the sight and it is either Subscribers or
Pay Per View with no mention of the $ amount. What do I seem to be missing in the Free
viewing?
Darlene
> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 09:47:38 -0500
> From: Magda Havas
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Our Concern
> To: Darlene Raunio
> Cc: mhavas@trentu.ca
>
> Darlene,
>
> Sorry to respond so late but I've been on Christmas vacation with family.
>
> Yes I can send you a paper I wrote for the Journal Environmental Reviews. I will try to
> attach it although it is a very lengthy document (80 pages). Alternatively you can get
> a copy from:
>
> http://www.nrc.ca/cgi-bin/cisti/journals/rp/rp2_tocs_e?er_er3-00_8
>
> The document reviews research that has been done on biological effects of power lines.
> It includes epidemiological studies as well as lab based studies. You may already have
> some of this information.
>
> Let me know if you require more information. If I have difficulty sending you the
> document (because of size), I'll at least send you the abstract and excerpts from the
> conclusions.
>
> -magda havas
>
>
>
>> Dr. Havas,
>>
>> According to Roy Beavers, below, who said that you have some pertinent information
>> regarding more on the health issues pertaining to power lines.
>>
>> Technical hearings will commence Jan. 3rd and in our case, we're battling,
>> specifically the health hazards, from the construction of a 250 mile 345 kV (& 115 kV
>> connected at the one substation on the proposed route) Arrowhead-Weston Electric
>> Transmission Line project proposed from Duluth, MN to Weston, WI.
>>
>> If you do have information that would help in our battle it would be greatly
>> appreciated if you would share this. We have expert witnesses (veterinarians on the
>> "stray voltage" and Dr. Duane Dahlberg) and we're looking for any/all health related
>> items to add to the abundace we already have.
>>
>> We would greatly appreciate any help you could give us,
>> Thanking you,
>> Darlene Raunio, C.U.R.E.
>
>> > Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:31:05 -0600
>> > From: Roy Beavers
>> > Reply-To: roy@emfguru.com
>> > Organization: EMF-L List...
>> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
>> > X-Accept-Language: en
>> > To: Darlene Raunio
>> > Subject: Re: Our Concern
>> >
>> > Darlene:
>> >
>> > I think you should ask Dr. Magda Havas if she can send you a copy of her latest paper
>> > about
>> > the ELF bioeffects (power lines mainly)...... Mary would get a lot of good
>> > information out
>> > of it -- on the health effects issue. Her address is: mhavas@trentu.ca
>> >
>> > Cheerio.......guru......
>> >
>> > --
>>
>> C.U.R.E. - Citizens United for Responsible Electricity
>> P.O. Box 43
>> Brantwood, WI 54513
>> 715 - 564 - 3362 / 715 - 453 - 5575
>>
>
> --
> Dr. Magda Havas
> Environmental & Resource Studies, Trent University,
> Peterborough Ontario, K9J 7B8, Canada
>
> mhavas@trentu.ca phone:(705) 748-1232 fax:(705) 748-1569
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Magda:
Tell your Canadian friends that we have no sympathy with their
desire to profiteer at
the expense of our readers...... Some of us lose $$thousand$$
per year through our
non-reimbursed (non expense account) activities on this matter.........guru......
(We don't
even get the TAX DEDUCTIONS which the industry gets...... On this
subject activity.)
.......EVERYBODY: Forward to your congressman......!!
Those huge staffs -- lawyers, PR people, lobbysists -- are all TAX DEDUCTIBLE
to industry...... Virtually ALL of the scientists and other CONFLICT
OF INTEREST
people I met at the various meetings -- were on expense accounts.........
I was not......
I can afford it..... But many of my readers cannot.........guru.......
-------- Original Message --------
| Subject: |
Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Our Concern |
| Date: |
Sun, 07 Jan 2001 14:00:28 -0600 |
| From: |
Darlene Raunio <darvr@newnorth.net> |
| To: |
guru@emfguru.com |
Roy,
I saw on your mailing list about Magda's papers but I could not download
hers that she'd sent me (the abstract - 1 pg., yes). I go to the
sight and it is either Subscribers or Pay Per View with no mention of the
$ amount. What do I seem to be missing in the Free viewing?
Darlene
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 09:47:38 -0500
From: Magda Havas <mhavas@trentu.ca>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Our Concern
To: Darlene Raunio <darvr@newnorth.net>
Cc: mhavas@trentu.ca
Darlene,
Sorry to respond so late but I've been on Christmas vacation with family.
Yes I can send you a paper I wrote for the Journal Environmental Reviews.
I will try to attach it although it is a very lengthy document (80 pages).
Alternatively you can get a copy from:
http://www.nrc.ca/cgi-bin/cisti/journals/rp/rp2_tocs_e?er_er3-00_8
The document reviews research that has been done on biological effects
of power lines. It includes epidemiological studies as well as lab
based studies. You may already have some of this information.
Let me know if you require more information. If I have difficulty
sending you the document (because of size), I'll at least send you the
abstract and excerpts from the conclusions.
-magda havas
Dr. Havas,
According to Roy Beavers, below, who said that you have some pertinent
information regarding more on the health issues pertaining to power lines.
Technical hearings will commence Jan. 3rd and in our case, we're battling,
specifically the health hazards, from the construction of a 250 mile 345
kV (& 115 kV connected at the one substation on the proposed route)
Arrowhead-Weston Electric Transmission Line project proposed from Duluth,
MN to Weston, WI.
If you do have information that would help in our battle it would be
greatly appreciated if you would share this. We have expert witnesses
(veterinarians on the "stray voltage" and Dr. Duane Dahlberg) and we're
looking for any/all health related items to add to the abundace we already
have.
We would greatly appreciate any help you could give us,
Thanking you,
Darlene Raunio, C.U.R.E.
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:31:05 -0600
From: Roy Beavers <guru@emfguru.com>
Reply-To: roy@emfguru.com
Organization: EMF-L List...
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
To: Darlene Raunio <darvr@newnorth.net>
Subject: Re: Our Concern
Darlene:
I think you should ask Dr. Magda Havas if she can send you a copy of
her latest paper about
the ELF bioeffects (power lines mainly)...... Mary would get
a lot of good information out
of it -- on the health effects issue. Her address is: mhavas@trentu.ca
Cheerio.......guru......
--
C.U.R.E. - Citizens United for Responsible
Electricity
P.O. Box 43
Brantwood, WI 54513
715 - 564 - 3362 / 715 - 453 - 5575
<darvr@newnorth.net>
--
Dr. Magda Havas
Environmental & Resource Studies, Trent University,
Peterborough Ontario, K9J 7B8, Canada
mhavas@trentu.ca phone:(705) 748-1232 fax:(705) 748-1569
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