Subject:  Re Body Degauss (Spreitzer)(Kingsbry)(Einarsson).
Date:     Tue, 09 Jan 2001 094717 -0600
From:     Roy Beavers 
To:       guru 
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Hi everybody:

Gerry's comment below is worthy of some more attention.

First, I do conclude that he has not been with us for very long or he would probably
realize that the potential "healing" effects of EMF have long been recognized both
"in the science" and as a part of the continuing dialogue that has taken place on this
list.

Second -- and this is the important matter -- the "healing" qualities of EMF should NOT
be looked upon as a CONTRADICTION to the mission of this list!!

Instead, the "capacity to promote healing"  should be recognized as further PROOF that
EMF has a potential for harm when it is not occurring in a "controlled" manner......!!

It is that very same (biological activity, "bioeffects") quality that, when
UNCONTROLLED (unregulated) in our  environment,  can do the "harm"
that mankind has just begun to recognize........!!!!!!   The same is true of so many
other forces in nature, is it not???  X-rays, aspirin, "nuclear medicine", etc.....

You could make a long list of similar examples.....

The whole point about the problem of UNREGULATED or UNCONTROLLED EMF
exposure ... is that we (mankind) are being subjected to it willy-nilly ... without
OUR PERMISSION -- or even without our having any "say" as to the circumstances,
the "rules or laws" of our exposure......!!!

We do not permit that in the case of most "other" natural or man-made exposures.......
We regulate in the public's interest........  Should we not be doing the same in the
case of EMF??????

Cheerio.......

Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
roy@emfguru.com

It is better to light a single candle
    than to curse the darkness..

WEBSITE:  http://emfguru.com

People are more important than profit$$


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Body Degauss (Spreitzer)(Kingsbry)....
   Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:38:59 -0500
   From: "Gerry Einarsson" 
     To: 

 Roy: The article you have attached is somewhat at odds with the expressed concern of your
mailing list.  On one hand, most posters appear to be concerned with stray magnetic fields
harmful effects, yet this poster is deliberately advocating the healing effects available
from a source [I believe] to be quite a bit more powerful than those created by power
lines, cell phones etc. Interesting juxtaposition of belief systems. Gerry

     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Roy Beavers
     Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:05 AM
     To: undisclosed-recipients:;
     Subject: Re: Body Degauss (Spreitzer)(Kingsbry)....


     ........Response from EMF-L.......

     Something seems to be happening???.......I wonder about the "anonymous"
     source.......???......Is that really necessary???........guru......

     -------- Original Message --------
     Subject: Re: Body Degauss (Spreitzer)..
     Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 03:09:43 -0500
     From: Bill Kingsbury 
     To: roy@emfguru.com

     Hi Roy,

     A somewhat related degaussing report:

     excerpts from:  http://www.keelynet.com/biology/degauss.htm

     Degaussing for Pain Control
     _________________________________________
     From: Anonymous (private experimenter)
     To:   Jerry Decker
     Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997
     Subj: My Experience in Bio-Magnetics...

     Hi Jerry,

     Another "experimenter" asked me to do some more work with
     Bio-Magnetics.  Specifically, magnets to ease pain.... being
     my elder he suffers more joint pain than I do, but I have my
     share also.  He has been using ferrous magnets to ease hand
     and wrist pain.  I too, suffer the old keyboard syndrome....

     Being a student of instant gratification, I began looking for a
     faster way.  I dug up one of the Thumpers I built some months
     ago and tried that.  Not much change. (not instantaneously
     anyway...)  Then it occurred that I might try the Radio Shack
     audio tape degausser I had in my shop.

     Bingo.....!!!

     Almost instant and sustained relief.... Not to be fooled by
     psychosomatic relief, I waited till the next day to retry.
     To my surprise I awoke with almost no pain.  Later, when the
     pain became noticeable, I applied the degausser again.  Same
     positive results.

     My wife suffers severe hip pain in the evenings and I talked
     her into trying it out before bedtime..... Yep.... not total,
     but, to quote her, "about one tenth of the pain it had been."
     Next day my shoulders began hurting due to long hours at the
     desk and I tried an old TV CRT degausser.  Same results...

     Instant and sustained pain relief.  The wife (now believing
     that I'm not as crazy as she had thought) asked to have the
     audio degausser applied to her shoulder, which had been quite
     painful for several days..... Once again, instant relief which
     lasted all day and didn't came back.

     I am offering this to anyone who would like to try it and see
     if it works as well for them.  I'd like nothing better than
     to put a bunch of medical doctors out of business.....  They
     just can't understand non-invasive, non-narcotic pain relief.

     More later.....


     -------- Original message --------
     From: Roy Beavers 
     Org:  EMF-L List...
     Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001
     Subj: Body Degauss (Spreitzer)..

     .......From EMF-L.......

     Folks, look at this!!!.......guru......

     -------- Original Message --------
     From: joannes5@juno.com
     To:   roy@emfguru.com
     Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001
     Subj: Degauss

     Hello,

     wonder if you'd care to comment on an Internet item
     describing how the electromagnetically hypersensitive
     can relieve their problem by degaussing themselves with
     a hair dryer.  The item follows.

     thank you

     J. Spreitzer

     ===========

     http://www.healthk.co.uk/self-help.html#degauss

     Degauss

     If you are sensitive to electro-magnetic pollution
     then a simple but rather strange self-help technique
     from HK can be used safely by anyone.

     Who can it help?

     This will probably help you:

     . If you are affected by power lines, computers, etc.
     . If you get frequent static electric shocks
     . If you "interfere" with radios, battery watches,
        causing them to malfunction
     . If you are "addicted" to television or computer games
     . If you live or work in an area of geopathic stress


     How do I do it?

     An electric hair drier is used to degauss
     [demagnetise] the body.  Switch on and then run the
     side of the drier over the whole of the body.  It
     doesn't matter where the air blows; it is the electric
     motor itself which is doing the job.  This needs to be
     done on average once a week, or even more frequently
     for anyone who is particularly sensitive electrically.
     The whole procedure takes less than 5 minutes.

     Is this dangerous?

     Some people are anxious about using a hair drier
     because they have been told that they should reduce
     their exposure to electrical equipment as much as
     possible.  However, here the alternating magnetic pole
     of the hair drier motor is being used to demagnetise
     the body and so make it less susceptible to
     electro-magnetic pollution.  This is not the way in
     which people normally use a hair drier!


     How can I find out more?

     Try reading "Geopathic Stress: How Earth Energies
     Affect Our Lives" by Jane Thurnell-Read :

     http://www.healthk.co.uk/books-geopathic-stress-and-feng-shui.html

     mailto:jane@healthk.co.uk

     (c) 1999-2000 Health Kinesiology UK



     .



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Hi everybody:

Gerry's comment below is worthy of some more attention.

First, I do conclude that he has not been with us for very long or he would probably
realize that the potential "healing" effects of EMF have long been recognized both
"in the science" and as a part of the continuing dialogue that has taken place on this list.

Second -- and this is the important matter -- the "healing" qualities of EMF should NOT
be looked upon as a CONTRADICTION to the mission of this list!!

Instead, the "capacity to promote healing"  should be recognized as further PROOF that
EMF has a potential for harm when it is not occurring in a "controlled" manner......!!

It is that very same (biological activity, "bioeffects") quality that, when
UNCONTROLLED (unregulated) in our  environment,  can do the "harm"
that mankind has just begun to recognize........!!!!!!   The same is true of so many
other forces in nature, is it not???  X-rays, aspirin, "nuclear medicine", etc.....

You could make a long list of similar examples.....

The whole point about the problem of UNREGULATED or UNCONTROLLED EMF
exposure ... is that we (mankind) are being subjected to it willy-nilly ... without
OUR PERMISSION -- or even without our having any "say" as to the circumstances,
the "rules or laws" of our exposure......!!!

We do not permit that in the case of most "other" natural or man-made exposures.......
We regulate in the public's interest........  Should we not be doing the same in the
case of EMF??????

Cheerio.......

Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
roy@emfguru.com

It is better to light a single candle
    than to curse the darkness..

WEBSITE:  http://emfguru.com

People are more important than profit$$
 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: Body Degauss (Spreitzer)(Kingsbry)....
Date:  Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:38:59 -0500
From:  "Gerry Einarsson" <einargk@hotmail.com>
To:  <roy@emfguru.com>

 Roy: The article you have attached is somewhat at odds with the expressed concern of your mailing list.  On one hand, most posters appear to be concerned with stray magnetic fields harmful effects, yet this poster is deliberately advocating the healing effects available from a source [I believe] to be quite a bit more powerful than those created by power lines, cell phones etc. Interesting juxtaposition of belief systems. Gerry 

----- Original Message -----
From: Roy Beavers
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:05 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Re: Body Degauss (Spreitzer)(Kingsbry)....
 

........Response from EMF-L.......

Something seems to be happening???.......I wonder about the "anonymous"
source.......???......Is that really necessary???........guru......

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Body Degauss (Spreitzer)..
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 03:09:43 -0500
From: Bill Kingsbury <kingsbry@gte.net>
To: roy@emfguru.com

Hi Roy,

A somewhat related degaussing report:

excerpts from:  http://www.keelynet.com/biology/degauss.htm

Degaussing for Pain Control
_________________________________________
From: Anonymous (private experimenter)
To:   Jerry Decker
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997
Subj: My Experience in Bio-Magnetics...

Hi Jerry,

Another "experimenter" asked me to do some more work with
Bio-Magnetics.  Specifically, magnets to ease pain.... being
my elder he suffers more joint pain than I do, but I have my
share also.  He has been using ferrous magnets to ease hand
and wrist pain.  I too, suffer the old keyboard syndrome....

Being a student of instant gratification, I began looking for a
faster way.  I dug up one of the Thumpers I built some months
ago and tried that.  Not much change. (not instantaneously
anyway...)  Then it occurred that I might try the Radio Shack
audio tape degausser I had in my shop.

Bingo.....!!!

Almost instant and sustained relief.... Not to be fooled by
psychosomatic relief, I waited till the next day to retry.
To my surprise I awoke with almost no pain.  Later, when the
pain became noticeable, I applied the degausser again.  Same
positive results.

My wife suffers severe hip pain in the evenings and I talked
her into trying it out before bedtime..... Yep.... not total,
but, to quote her, "about one tenth of the pain it had been."
Next day my shoulders began hurting due to long hours at the
desk and I tried an old TV CRT degausser.  Same results...

Instant and sustained pain relief.  The wife (now believing
that I'm not as crazy as she had thought) asked to have the
audio degausser applied to her shoulder, which had been quite
painful for several days..... Once again, instant relief which
lasted all day and didn't came back.

I am offering this to anyone who would like to try it and see
if it works as well for them.  I'd like nothing better than
to put a bunch of medical doctors out of business.....  They
just can't understand non-invasive, non-narcotic pain relief.

More later.....
 

-------- Original message --------
From: Roy Beavers <guru@emfguru.com>
Org:  EMF-L List...
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001
Subj: Body Degauss (Spreitzer)..

.......From EMF-L.......

Folks, look at this!!!.......guru......

-------- Original Message --------
From: joannes5@juno.com
To:   roy@emfguru.com
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001
Subj: Degauss

Hello,

wonder if you'd care to comment on an Internet item
describing how the electromagnetically hypersensitive
can relieve their problem by degaussing themselves with
a hair dryer.  The item follows.

thank you

J. Spreitzer

===========

http://www.healthk.co.uk/self-help.html#degauss

Degauss

If you are sensitive to electro-magnetic pollution
then a simple but rather strange self-help technique
from HK can be used safely by anyone.

Who can it help?

This will probably help you:

. If you are affected by power lines, computers, etc.
. If you get frequent static electric shocks
. If you "interfere" with radios, battery watches,
   causing them to malfunction
. If you are "addicted" to television or computer games
. If you live or work in an area of geopathic stress
 

How do I do it?

An electric hair drier is used to degauss
[demagnetise] the body.  Switch on and then run the
side of the drier over the whole of the body.  It
doesn't matter where the air blows; it is the electric
motor itself which is doing the job.  This needs to be
done on average once a week, or even more frequently
for anyone who is particularly sensitive electrically.
The whole procedure takes less than 5 minutes.

Is this dangerous?

Some people are anxious about using a hair drier
because they have been told that they should reduce
their exposure to electrical equipment as much as
possible.  However, here the alternating magnetic pole
of the hair drier motor is being used to demagnetise
the body and so make it less susceptible to
electro-magnetic pollution.  This is not the way in
which people normally use a hair drier!
 

How can I find out more?

Try reading "Geopathic Stress: How Earth Energies
Affect Our Lives" by Jane Thurnell-Read :

http://www.healthk.co.uk/books-geopathic-stress-and-feng-shui.html

mailto:jane@healthk.co.uk

(c) 1999-2000 Health Kinesiology UK
 
 

.

 


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