Subject: (Fist) (French) Re Bond breaking (fwd) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 051658 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org> To: emfguru@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:09:14 +1000 From: Stewart FistTo: "Roy L. Beavers" Subject: Re: (French) Re: Bond breaking (fwd) I'm not so sure that Peter French is right to define 'non-ionising' radiation in quite this way -- because in the terms of physicists, it just means EMF frequencies above a certain wavelength, with a certain level of energy. Accepting his other points and obviously the transduction stuff is vitally important, I still suggest that there's an unresolved question is whether EMF at levels below UV can break chemical bonds - and I would suggest that stochastic resonance provides such a mechanism. The point is that radio and light waves may not have the energy on their own to break bonds, but in the presence of noise in the systems (and most perceptual mechanisms seem to have electrical noise) it may be that the summation of energies on occasions (assuming the noise is random in summation and subtraction) will occasionally take the bond over the threshold. If such is the case, then I wouldn't expect to find noise in in vitro research, but I would in the vivo stuff. I accept everything else Peter says, but I wouldn't be quite as ready to throw away the 'not up to bond-breaking threshold' argument. With a dark-adapted eye on a moonless night it is possible to see stars which astronomical measurements tell us, must be triggered by the eye receiving only one photon. I don't see how one photon has enough energy to create a nerve impulse in the retina (and the consequent cascade of amplification effects we call vision), unless it breaks some sort of chemical bond. -- Stewart Fist - writer and columnist See http://www.theaustralian.com.au/techno/columns/fist.htm http://www.abc.net.au/http/sfist/ (some archives) http://www.electric-words.com (main archives) 70 Middle Harbour Road, Lindfield, 2070, N.S.W, Australia Phone +61 2 9416 7458 Fax +61 2 9416 4582 Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html