Subject: How important is the "mechanism?".... Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 053522 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org> To: emfguru@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:42:03 -0700 (PDT) From: marjorie lundquistTo: rbeavers@llion.org Subject: Re: The "way" of politicians Although Bill Curry and I are both physicists, I don't share his strong desire to know the mechanism by which electromagnetic fields cause harm to living tissue. I don't agree that epidemiological studies don't mean much in the absence of a mechanism of injury. Bill is correct that one cannot conclude, on the basis of epidemiological data alone, that a given agent is hazardous to health. All that epidemiological studies can document is association. In some cases, if the association is specific enough, the causal agent can be pretty clear. I am thinking of a map prepared of cases of illness in Guilford, CT, which showed that the cases were all located along a particular electric power line, within a certain distance of it. In this particular instance, the way the diseases were geographically associated with that power line made it pretty apparent that the power line was implicated. But more often there are a variety of possible agents that might be responsible for a given observed pattern of disease, and the epidemiological study usually will not distinguish among them. This is when one looks to supporting evidence that may enable one agent to be selected as more credible than another, in terms of causing the disease. Then the question of mechanism is often raised, and if there is no known mechanism by which one of the suspect agents could cause the disease in question, there will be some people--including some scientists--who will rule out a candidate agent on that basis! The question of mechanism does call for an answer, but it is not absolutely essential. With microwave EMF, for example, we have one (and I think two, although the second is somewhat controversial at present) controlled laboratory studies that indicate an association between lifetime rodent EMF exposure and disease (specifically, cancer). The value of the controlled laboratory study is that it can answer the question: Is the disease clearly associated with the particular agent under study here? With one of the rodent studies (the Guy rat study) the answer is YES, the cancer rate is about 3 1/2 times higher in the rats that received the microwave exposure and if the data reported in Microwave News (March/April 1997) is correct, then the answer in the Toler mouse study is again YES, there is a higher cancer rate in the microwave-exposed mice than in the control group. An epidemiological study CANNOT pinpoint one specific agent as causing the pattern of disease; a controlled laboratory study CAN. Once we know, from controlled laboratory studies, that cancer really is associated with EMF exposure, and not some other environmental agent, then we can go back to the epidemiological studies with new assurance that we can tie the disease to a specific agent (via controlled lab studies). Now we can draw additional conclusions from the epidemiological studies -- and nowhere in here do we have to know a mechanism! Having pointed out that knowledge of a mechanism is not logically necessary in order to give epidemiological studies credibility, I must now point out that Bill Curry's viewpoint is held by a good many professionals, especially physical scientists. They simply are not going to believe that a hazard exists unless someone can give them a credible mechanism! In the final analysis, credibility is personal. I may be convinced by one set of data, but my neighbor or a colleague may require completely different evidence in order to be convinced. When the situation is not clear and professionals disagree, then the only way to convince a large number of people (which is usually necessary as a prerequisite to political action) is to have reasonably convincing evidence on EVERY front! So Bill Curry's emphasis on mechanism is appropriate, even though I personally don't perceive it as necessary and don't need it to convince ME! Attention to the mechanism by which EMF exposure produces disease is important and proper, even though it isn't logically necessary, and even though (in my judgment) we have enough evidence RIGHT NOW to convince any sensible person that exposure to microwave EMF is hazardous! --Marjorie _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html