Subject: RE Reports of EMF affecting TWA flight 800.... (fwd)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 065052 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org>
To: emfguru@hotmail.com
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Sarah:
Yes!!! In what you write below, we very much agree!!! EMF IS having
biological effects. That is one of the most uncontroversial outcomes of
the EMF RAPID project....
I can't count the number of times I have said that on this net.
Here -- I'll say it again: since the dawn of the electrical/electronic
age, mankind has ASSUMED that all of these electrical (electrical,
electronic, EMF) signals that he is promulgating into the airways (by
whatever means) are biologically inactive.... THAT ASSUMPTION IS
WRONG.....
We now know that AT LEAST SOME OF THAT NON-IONIZING RADIATION IS
BIOLOGICALLY ACTIVE..... And the (next) assumption --
that the electronic/electrical industries want us to make -- is "so
what!!"..... "The fact that EMF results in biological activity doesn't
prove anything...."
Let us be clear about this -- that is what they are now arguing....
EMF RAPID is the first step in disputing that argument.... When
the scientists at Minneapolis said that the power line/childhood
leukemia scenario is "possibly" carcinogenic, they were validating
the many epidemiological studies which provide evidence of an
association between EMF and health effects -- beginning with the
Nancy Wertheimer study in Denver in 1979.....
As I wrote recently (when talking about the Hughes study, forwarded by
Peter Depippo) ... the RAPID group of scientists "copped out" on a
stronger "probable" judgment, using the more ambiguous in-vivo and
in-vitro research as their excuse.... But that merely points the way
where more research is needed.
Nevertheless, recognition of the fact that biological activity can result
from (environmental) EMF exposure is a huge leap forward!!!
We are now finding that this biological activity is not restricted to one
scenario -- the power lines. We are finding evidence of it everywhere, as
Dr. Goldsmith (and others) have written -- even in the radio signals (RF)
that fill our airways!!!! That SHOULD be the basis of the case for those
of you who are engaged in fighting the cell-phone antennas. (Though
there are many other "antennas" out there which may be even more harmful.)
For the industry to argue that ALL of this biological activity is
benign (harmless) ... is one hell of a burden that they must carry. Even
the _mathematical probabilities_ go against them on that!!!!
Once the cells start "reacting" (in various ways) to the EMF stimulation,
there is no guarantee that the cells changed or "disrupted" behavior
will not cascade on down through the rest of the physiological system,
causing more disruption and damage further on. That is probably the
melatonin story, for example....
What I was simply trying to say in my TWA 800 comment is the fact that:
electronic transmissions possibly causing the TWA crash does not
in any way relate to "proving" the biological side.....
It is just "not news" that electronic transmissions interrupt or
interfere with other electrical/electronic activities. We have known
about that from "day one" of the electrical age. You have probably seen
that on your TV set.....etc.
Dr. Ed Maxey has just sent us an interesting comment which bears on
this subject. I will forward his message next....
Cheerio.....
Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
rbeavers@llion.org..............http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html
................................It is better to light a single candle ...
than to curse the darkness...............................................
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:10:16 +1000
From: "Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)"
To: "'Roy L. Beavers'"
Subject: RE: Reports of EMF affecting TWA flight 800....
I can't resist. Sandy Doull, who is Health and Safety Officer at the
CSIRO (Commonwealth Scientific & Industrial Research Organisation) in
Melbourne, has said that he feels there is definetly a connection
between EMI and biological effects. He has written papers and has been
publicly active on this issue (and powerlines) for over 20 years. I'm
not a scientist, but it sort of makes sense to me.
Sarah Benson
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy L. Beavers [SMTP:rbeavers@llion.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 July 1998 7:45 AM
> To: emfguru@hotmail.com
> Subject: Reports of EMF affecting TWA flight 800....
>
> Hi everybody:
>
> To all of you who have sent me something on the possible TWA/EMF
> connection -- Thanks!!!
>
> But, I'm afraid that kind of thing is "old news" to military people.
> We have had to live with 'electronic interference' of ALL sorts
> with our OWN equipment BY our OWN equipment for decades...... It is a
> nuisance, we have to work to minimize those interferences, but it does
> not
> have anything to do with any possible biological/health effects that I
> can
> visualize..... (Except the well known heart pacemaker case....)
>
> Don't jump on that one..... It is likely to be another of those
> "stories" that could give the internet a bad name......
>
> Cheerio.....
>
> Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
> rbeavers@llion.org..............http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html
> ................................It is better to light a single candle
> ...
> than to curse the
> darkness...............................................
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