Subject:  EMF and antioxidants study (de Rose).
Date:     Mon, 26 Mar 2001 051435 -0600
From:     Roy Beavers 
To:       guru 
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.......Response from EMF-L.......

Shirley -- thank you for this well written response!!!

About the anti-oxidants study, guru would like to say: experiments
(like "numbers") can be designed to show what the experimenter
wants to show.....  You know -- the figures don't lie, but liars
can figure......

Also -- for all readers in the U.S. -- DO NOT MISS the Bill Moyers
show tonight on PBS.......  (Check your local time.) .....guru....

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: EMF and antioxidants study
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:10:02 -0800
From: Shirley 
To: guru@emfguru.com

Hi, Roy & Jim

Most studies of nutritional effects on "illness" forget the major 
premise of wholistic medicine:  isolates (individual nutritional 
substances) are not the answer because they are removed from the 
System.

The answer is a toxic free body supported with proper nutrition, 
rest, environment, play, relationships, etc. etc. Each part plays its 
part.
Just like a plane needs wings, fuel, and landing gear, etc., the body 
needs its individual parts and an environment working at its optimum 
condition for the body to function correctly.

Now, what if we gave an airplane better wings, more fuel, lots of 
improvements otherwise, and tried to land on the same ole landing 
gear.  The results would depend. Depend on what all the other factors 
are - for instance a significant change in weight from the new wings, 
etc.

Same with the human body.  It is really impossible to use a 
"randomized, double-blind, crossover, placebo-controlled study" in 
the wholistic framework of body care because it is the SYSTEM that 
needs examination, not just one isolated element and those of you who 
know systems theory will immediately know that changing one part of a 
system changes it all especially a biological system with a spiritual 
component.

(Bucky Fuller said it interestingly with his "trim tab" but I'm off 
the point....)

Of course, people with electrical sensitivity may or may not show 
changes when given antioxidants alone. In this study the amounts 
given were "a daily intake of 180 mg vitamin C and 100 mg vitamin E. 
In addition, 120 mcg selenium was included. "   Linus Pauling would 
roll over in his grave!

It would be a wonderful thing if there were such a simple answer as a 
tiny, short-term isolated vitamin supplementation to stop electrical 
sensitivity.  And there might even be a fortunate positive response 
to this small amount of supplementation by some very lucky study 
participant.

If we read the study it is encouraging to think that Sweden is still 
among the forefront in at least looking at things that might help.

It is discouraging when reading the entire study to see the details. 
Simple details might cause a reader to shake their head in dismay.

For instance, "Three patients, who were already taking antioxidants, 
were asked to stop taking them 3 weeks before entering the study. " 
If the rule of thumb to help a cancer patient with nutritional 
substances is that it will take 6 months of therapy to effectuate a 
turn-around, then how much time should be put between discontinuance 
of the antioxidants and the test.  Maybe 6 months.... And what amount 
of antioxidants were they using that they discontinued?  Do you think 
it significant that  "The reasons for nonparticipation [by some 
subjects] S a reluctance to discontinue their own therapies including 
antioxidants (n = 4),...." What amounts were they taking with what 
results which were so significant that they didn't want to stop 
taking them so they could participate in the study?

Reading lots of nutritional studies like this simply leads this 
writer to one conclusion: There is no magic bullet.   It is a 
systematic answer. No isolate will ever "cure" the violations of 
natural laws.

In a way, finding answers might seem very hopeless. But we must begin 
and to that end I am grateful to the Swedish Doctors. Their study is 
what it is. Let's  be very specific about what the study proved. That 
"a daily intake of 180 mg vitamin C and 100 mg vitamin E, in 
addition, 120 mcg selenium" over a short period of time signifies 
only what those amounts do or don't do over the course of a specific 
period of time according to the study.
Nothing more.

"Biochemical individuality" (see Roger Williams, etc.) demands a 
systems approach, throwing such a broad net  for a study that it is 
difficult to imagine.

In lieu of waiting for successful studies, here's a proposed way to 
start thinking about the possibility of helping yourself and others:

1. Stop the EM pollution. Stop other forms of pollution. Clean up the 
mess as best as we can and fast as we can.

2. Cleanse the individual body systems of all toxic residue, both 
that comes from the environment and that which is put in the body, 
such as junk food, cigs, etc, and that which is a natural byproduct 
of the life process, such as oxidants. (Moyers on PBS tonight will 
talk about dangerous chemicals in the body.  Bill Moyers himself had 
his body analyzed and found that his body contains 31 different types 
of PCBs, 13 different toxins and pesticides such as malathion and 
DDT.)

3. Build or rebuild the body processes that produce good health, ie, 
good foods that are well digested, supplemented by as many rebuilding 
nutrients as can be assimilated;  support for the immune system, the 
circulatory system, the nervous system, etc.

4. Design and live a lifestyle that suits your personality type.

5. Resolve to live without wanting to take the possessions of other people.

6. Honor the value of each person.


I believe this list  will do more to help those who are suffering 
from electrical sensitivity than spending money on strangely designed 
studies.


In closing, here's 2 tidbits to mull over.

"The inclusion criteria for patients to be asked to participate in 
the study were:..."a history of visual display units (VDUs) or 
fluorescent lights as the initial triggering factors."

This is two radically different factors, lumped together as if they 
were similar.

The following reported symptoms are consistent with undiagnosed 
Binocular Vision Dysfunction (ICD 378) exacerbated by VDT use: 
itching [eyes], reddening of the skin [around the eyes] , sensation 
of heat [around the eyes], ... tingling in the skin [around the 
eyes], nausea, vision problems, headache, fatigue, difficulties 
concentrating, aggressiveness, and depression.

These specific symptoms were on the questionnaire provided the 
subjects. There wasn't even so much as a screening for functional 
vision problems.
(Children are at particular risk since their visual system is in development.)

Fluorescent lights that are not full spectrum lights (i.e. including 
some of the UV spectrum) have been shown to cause the above list also.
(Children are at particular risk because the lack of UV exposure in 
proper amounts effects the periodicity of the body's systems during 
development.)

We live in a world that puts kids/adults in front of computers with 
no stress relieving lenses, under fluorescent lights with a distorted 
spectral distribution, with flicker resulting from the competing 
light sources, eating Chicken Nuggets, Fries, and a Coke, and expect 
a little C, a little E, and some Selenium to "fix" the resulting 
problems.

Uhhh, what's wrong with this picture?

Shirley de Rose, MA, Human Behavior







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