Subject: Portable Hands free for mobiles not as safe as thought (fwd) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 093838 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org> To: emfguru@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- Hi everybody: I trust that everyone has had a good rest -- not hearing any "commentary" from me for a while. We have had a house full of guests the past week and that has very much reduced my available computer time. The following message asks me to comment. I usually avoid comment on subject matter about which I feel "unqualified." (Careful ... now ... you don't have to mutter under your breath that "there is little evidence to prove that" ... or some such appropriate observation that puts guru in his proper place.....) Anyway, the following exchange between two of our members is certainly interesting in a technical sense because of the suggestion that this "EMF stuff" just "crawls around everywhere" -- even some places where it might not be suspected..... I cannot, of course, confirm or deny what these two engineers report here. Nor can I confirm the 'efficacy' of the protective qualities of the MICROSHIELD product.... I hope it is as good as claimed, but the fact of my printing this information here does not mean that I am endorsing the product.... I think I will take this opportunity to try and explain why I endeavor to be a "non-endorser" of this or any other product (or 'service') that may appear on these pages.... I came into this task (EMFguru) with one strong conviction and one strong objective in mind: to 'pass the word' about the EMF phenomenon to a public that I consider is being denied the truth ... by a government (and media) that is not doing its job..... As I state in my very first introductory EMF-L message (It is still there on the web-page.), I happened to be a sort of an "insider" in the early years of the development of this issue. I saw and heard things which I knew the general public was not "hearing about." If the public was told anything, they were being told a version of "dissembled" truth, "spin doctor" truths, designed to convey a realty that serves the purpose of the "spin doctors for the vested interests" -- in Nazi Germany, that kind of "truth" was called by its real name: propaganda..... My sole purpose in starting EMF-L was to correct that situation..... I had, then, nothing to sell or promote. I have nothing to sell or promote now. I conceive of my mission as that of a "clearing house" -- to receive and retransmit information about EMF to the general public OF THE WORLD ... because I do see this issue as of worldwide consequence.... Naturally, I do not WANT to transmit misinformation and I do not WANT to become a pathway of advertising or promotion of any individual product or service. Neither do I desire to "freeze out" the manufacturers and service providers when they have a genuine contribution to make ... to our purpose here. It is sometimes a difficult (and subjective) "fine line" distinction I am trying to maintain... Sometimes I fail, I'm sure, in achieving the "ideal" I strive for.... One final point that may at times seem to be incongruous with the above: I am convinced that the "science" side of this issue is well ahead of the "political" or "media" side in tis development.... Therefore, from time to time I do CONSCIOUSLY editorialize (perhaps even "sloganize") in that regard ... to make the political points which I consider of PRIME importance at this stage in the evolution of this historical issue..... Cheerio.... (The messages below are well worth taking a look at....) Roy Beavers (EMFguru) rbeavers@llion.org..............http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html ................................It is better to light a single candle ... than to curse the darkness............................................... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:24:58 +1000 From: Microshield AustraliaTo: "Roy L. Beavers" Subject: Portable Hands free for mobiles not as safe as thought Dear Roy Below are some correspondance between Don and Alasdair. I would appreciate your comments regarding this issue. Joseph Pirzada Director of Research and Strategic Issues Microshield Industries (Australia) Pty Ltd Tel: + 61 2 9212 4333 Fax: +61 2 9212 4633 Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 22:57:13 >To: Don Maisch >From: Alasdair Philips >Subject: Re: Microwaves and hands free kits >Mime-Version: 1.0 > >Hello Don > >Yes, I have done and seen this. I think some of the RF comes up the actual >wires,and some is picked up acting as a receiver aerial. Unfortunately, as >the earpiece end is 'unterminated' as far as RF goes you get the peak RF >levels right at the end where the earpiece is. I haven't made a fuss about >this ~ it seems all I say is negative and the media are getting pissed of >with it ~ so I only raise it when people actually ask if hands-free kits >help ~ and they do slightly ~ the RF level is lower than actually by the >phone's antenna. Unfortunately, of course, it is right inside the ear. > >The Microshield case is a much, much, better 'answer' if you don't mind >very short 'talk time' as the poor phone is generally working at 2 W all >the time it is transmitting in order to cope with the lost signal. > >I imagine the Microshield guy showed you the British telecom test results >on the Microshield case ~ they are mighty impressive ~ well over 99% >reduction when the microshield strip is fully up against the antenna. > >I am dashing to see the ITN main news at 10pm as Roger's warning label >court case is meant to be on tonight! > >I'm back ~ now they didn't run it again tonight though they say they have a >10 minute piece which they will run soon. I'll believe it when I see it. > >Keep in touch, >Very best wishes, > >Alasdair >=========================================================== > > > > >At 10:50 08/05/98 +1000, you wrote: >>Hi Alasdair >> >>I had an interesting conservation with Joseph Pirzada of Microshield >>Aistralia yesterday. >> >>He took a microwave meter (Trifield-on RF/MW setting), put it near the >>earpiece of a hands free kit and got high readings. He will have the >>Physics Laboratory of Sydney do proper tests. This beings up some >>interesting points. >> >>Why MW readings on the earpiece? Is the wire from the phone to earpiece >>picking up the phone transmission and acting as a secondary antenna? >> >>This would tend to indicate that the hands-free kit may be giving a false >>sense of safety. >> >>What are your thoughts? >> >>Regards >> >>Don Maisch >> >>********************************** >>EMFacts Information Service >>P.O. Box 96, >>North Hobart 7002, >>Tasmania >>AUSTRALIA >>Phone: +61 (3) 62430195 >>Fax: +61 (3) 62430340 >>E-Mail: emfacts@tassie.net.au >>HomePage: http://www.tassie.net.au/emfacts/ >>********************************** >> >> >> > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Alasdair Philips (aphilips@gn.apc.org) >Director, UK Powerwatch, >EMC Engineer and EMF-bioeffects researcher >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ********************************** EMFacts Information Service P.O. Box 96, North Hobart 7002, Tasmania AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 (3) 62430195 Fax: +61 (3) 62430340 E-Mail: emfacts@tassie.net.au HomePage: http://www.tassie.net.au/emfacts/ ********************************** Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html