Subject: (Joanne), the immune system, Re (Woodley) AIDS & EMFs (fwd)
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 032723 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org>
To: emfguru <rbeavers@llion.org>
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Hi everybody:
I'm sure you all recall the various references that have appeared on
this network from time to time concerning "anecdotes." They are not
considered "scientific" by "science." None of us are likely to argue
against that..... We accept that. But does that mean they are totally
irrelevant -- to what we are trying to accomplish here ... or to "science"
for that matter???
I hope someone will forward the following to Dr. Robert Liburdy.... I
could do so, but I prefer that it come to him from one of his colleagues.
He is more likely to regard it with the seriousness it deserves ... though
it is "only" an anecdote..... (For those of you who have joined recently,
Dr. Liburdy, of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, is the world's
foremost authority on the effect of EMF on melatonin and its possible
effect on our immune systems. I have portions of one of his papers on
my web-site -- easy to find -- his name is in the title. I have also
heard him publicly discuss the subject a number of times......)
The message below is also an example of the kind of world we ALL seem
destined to live-in when our government(s) refuse to inform/protect their
citizens from the growing "Blue World" menace ... which they (the
governments) know full well is creeping into our future..... And, in so
many different forms that one cannot quickly name all the potential
"threat" sources..... I "knew" about the following, but I don't believe
we have discussed it before within this group.
The problem is, you see, an absence of 'authenticated' information which
can not only provide a basis for public policy, but can also 'arm'
individual citizens to act wisely on their own behalf ... and on behalf
of their children ... or grandchildren ... as in the case below.....
Cheerio.......
Roy Beavers (EMFguru)
rbeavers@llion.org................
...It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness...
.................PEOPLE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN PROFITS...............
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 23:53:28 EDT
From: JCMPelican@aol.com
To: rbeavers@llion.org
Subject: Re: (Woodley) AIDS & EMFs (fwd)
Roy - I can certainly appreciate what you are saying about the immune
system. I do know in the case of my two grandsons (both from different
parents i.e., one from my daughter and her husband and one from my son and
his wife) that we have medical records to support the dramatic changes in
their immune systems after removing both children from waterbeds which were
immediately adjacent to power sources in both instances.
I may have mentioned previously that my daughter and I discovered when we
went to purchase a new heater for her son's waterbed that the salesperson did
discuss EMF's and actually showed us a publication citing various EMF issues.
The salesperson said "EMF's from new waterbed heaters had been substantially
reduced."
IGG tests on my daughter's son were up almost 100 points (or whatever
technical term would be) several months to six months after removing him
completely from his waterbed/power wall situation. We did not see any such
dramatic results during the time he had the new waterbed heater and while he
remained sleeping adjacent to the power wall. Had I been able to convince
my daughter of probable EMF risks in the first instance, a new waterbed
heater would have never been purchased at all. However, this was a very long
and difficult process and I had to be satisfied with one step at a time.
I will refer to him as grandson A and my son's boy as grandson B. Before the
immunologist knew anything about grandson B, he had stated grandson A had a
"very unusual immune deficiency and that we needed to check for other family
members with the same problem." The doctor also asked whether other family
members had died at a very young age. Neither case is applicable here or in
the case of grandson B. However, you can well imagine the doctor's surprise
when I stated "I have a carbon copy of this child at home" (meaning identical
health problems of earaches, sinus infections and asthma).
Grandson B was later discovered to be sleeping in conditions identical to
grandson A (although I still find it overwhelming and almost impossible to
believe myself). Grandson B didn't have a waterbed of his own like grandson
A but rather slept with his dad in the master bedroom. Ironically the reason
he slept in "the big bed" is BECAUSE he was SO SICK!!! It took many more
months to learn all of this and to make the necessary changes (a very long
story) but the bottom line is that within two weeks of grandson B going from
the waterbed/powerwall situation to a regular bed on a "safe wall", he
started to eat and stopped coughing. Since Bud and I were watching him
daily, his mom asked "....did you put magic pills in his food or something?"
Grandson B, we had learned shortly after the diagnosis of the "very unusual
immune deficiency" was diagnosed with the identical "unusual immune
deficiency." We were told both boys could develop lymphoma or colon cancer.
We have been told there "is no name for their illness" but rather the
deficiency is referred to as a "symptom" -- hypogammaglobulinemia. Both
children have low IGG-1 and IGG-3. We are told persons with low IGG's
usually have low IGG-2's and 4's. We were told our situation with grandson
A was "rare" even if a parent or parents had same problem. Their was "no
comment" after we presented grandson B in regard to how "rare" the problem
is/was. Incidentally grandson B is said to have a completely normal immune
test result even tho he was originally 100 pts. low. Grandson A is still
low but continues to do fairly well. He does have some asthma and daily
inhaler. Also occasional headaches. Grandson B no longer receives any
treatment for asthma and hasn't even been on antibiotics for a very long
time.
As you may recall I stated in one of my letters to President Clinton that the
immunologist admitted to us that studies have shown EMF's lowered immune
functions in mice. You may or may not be aware of the many books on
melatonin but there is plenty of information regarding the circadian rhythm,
EMF's and hormones in those books. I will be glad to tell you which ones I
have read should you be interested. I knew nothing about melatonin at the
time I told the doctors what we had done to bring about such dramatic results
in the children. It was some time later when "one of my angels" happened to
give me an article on melatonin she had cut out of an Enquirer that later
prompted me to look for more information on melatonin. I believe it was
from books such as "Warning, The Electricity Around You May be Hazardous to
Your Health", "Currents of Death", "The Great Powerline Coverup" and many
other publications that somehow it made sense to me that EMF's might be
interfering with the childrens' sleep to the point it affected their
circadian systems and thus their hormones. As I said, I didn't know about
melatonin but found out that it is a major hormone that affects all of the
rest of the hormones in the body. I also didn't know about the pineal
gland during the bed replacement stage......
We, of course, have other problems in our family and families of persons who
lived in this neighborhood that are too coincidental not to be strongly
related to the "threatening powerlines." However, we have never found
another connection to EMF's and immune function. This could, of course, be
due to the fact that immune tests are not easy to come by and are very
expensive.
No one can convince me EMF's aren't the reason my babies may yet develop
lymphoma, leukemia or colon cancer. As to my children -- parents of
grandson's A and B, I do not let them know how much I still worry in spite of
many improvements in the health of both children.
I guess none of us knows for sure. As you and others have said, "we can only
tell what we, ourselves, know....... " Take care - Joanne
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