Subject: (Curry) (Cvijovic) mobile phones / power (fwd) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 191348 -0600 (CST) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org> To: emfguru <rbeavers@llion.org> -------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:10:17 -0700 From: "Bill P. Curry"To: "Roy L. Beavers" Subject: Re: (Cvijovic) mobile phones / power (fwd) Roy and Drasko, The experiments that I have seen reported which showed sensitivity to the AC magnetic field and not the AC electric field were carefully devised to reveal any electric field sensitivity which might be there and showed none. Some experiments showed sensitivity to both fields, but most were more sensitive to the magnetic component. Remember that an electromagnetic wave has both components with the associated vectors at right angles to each other. Because of this fact and the nature of the Poynting vector EXH which describes the flow of energy per unit time through a surface of unit area normal to the direction of wave propagation, one can always go between descriptions of the wave in terms of fields or in terms of power density, provided one knows the dielectric properties of the medium and its conductivity - if any. Roy, you mentioned resonance phenomena. One of these, the ion parametric resonance, requires description in terms of a parameter which is the ratio of the AC and (aligned) DC magnetic fields, multiplied by the frequency of the AC field. When this parameter takes on certain predictable values, some cellular effects such as inhibition of calcium ion efflux through membranes are maximized and certain other predictable values give minimum effect - i.e., normal calcium ion outflow. At other values of the parameter, the effects are intermediate and the experimental results follow the same trend predicted by the theory. This behavior reminds me very much of quantum mechanics (or at least of wave mechanics), although it is not truly a matter of only discrete quantum states occurring, becuase there are experimental data showing the existence of intermediate values of the effect between maximum and minimum. Some papers have also dealt with the flow of electrons through biologically interesting molecules, treating these from the viewpoint of solid state physics. Whether any resonances associated with these electron flows have been identified, I don't know, but I suspect that there will be resonant behavior. I don't understand how you can expect there to be effects of EM radiation upon living cells without there being absorption of energy. Even resonance phenomena require some absorption of energy - even though it may be very small. I think the SAR is a significant metric, even when you are considering non-thermal and non-ionizing interactions. The proper description of resonant behavior must include those dissipative terms whioch prevent the resonance from causing an infinite response, and these terms are associated with absorption of energy. The mathematical description of near resonant behavior is exemplified by the so-called resonant denominator (be it a mechanical oscillator, an electrical oscillator, or the quantum mechancial behavior of resonant atomic and molecular states). This expression (appearing in the denominator of a fraction) always has the sum of two squared terms: one of these is the difference between the energy of the system in question and the energy at which the system goes into resonance. The other term represents the finite width of the resonant state. If you are measuring the cross section (probability of an event occurring expressed in the units of cross sectional area), the width of the resonant state is the full width (on the energy axis) at half maximum of the cross section for the process which is undergoing resonance. Fromm the uncertainty principle, you can relate the width of the resonant state to its lifetime. Suppose, for example, that you consider an electron of just the right energy approaching a nitrogen molecule. The electron will form a temporary negative ion state during which it can transfer its energy to excitation of the nitrogen molecular vibration. If you measure the rate at which this happens as a function of the electron energy, you will find the kind of resonant behavior that I was describing. The cross section peaks at about 1.7 eV electron energy, and the resonance is fairly broad. -- ---- Bill P. Curry, Ph.D. |Physics is fun. 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