Subject: (Markov) BEMS as authoritative source.....
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 104511 -0600 (CST)
From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org>
To: emfguru <rbeavers@llion.org>
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.......Dr. Markov, in principle I agree of course.....HOWEVER, BEMS also
has some serious internal problems (in my opinion, of course).....Caused,
I think, because they try to straddle two tracks that are _increasingly
divergent_: (1) stay "in good" with industry/government ... and (2) the
scientific truth......
As a result, they are (at times) inconsistent AND they are certainly SLOW
to "update" with the latest developments -- particularly demonstrated by
their lack of ANY (observable?) ACTIVITY on behalf of updating the
standards we have been talking about here.......BEMS must decide whether
they are scientists (serving the public) or lackeys (serving
industry/government)!!!.......May I ask a question: What do
we really know about BEMS funding or staffing???.....guru........
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:05:33 -0500
From: "Dr. Markov"
To: "Roy L. Beavers"
Subject: Re: (Woodley) Re: (Philips) EMF's and Fluoroscent Lights (fwd)
Hi all,
This is in response of the letter of Roy Beavers on cancekatino and
dosimetry of magnetic and electromagnetic fields. The best place to go
is the professional Society of Bioelectromagnetics which integrates for
more than 20 years all the efforts on biological, physical, engineering
aspects of the EMF and life.
I saw in some letter attempts to neglect the professionals - do not do
that, use their experience
Dr. Marko Markov
Roy L. Beavers wrote:
>
> .......On the effect of reversing the 'current' field to cancel out the
> magnetic field (ideally 180 degrees out of phase) -- I have been assured
> by more than one electrical engineer -- that will work (up to a
> point)......However, it doesn't eliminate other aspects of the 'EMF field'
> -- e.g., the transients (spikes of energy), induced currents, effect on
> aerosols, etc.....We must take care not to hang too much on the
> "measurable" (mG) field when there is so much more there ... that we are
> not now measuring, including some of the highest and lowest
> frequencies.......I am SUSPICIOUS of SIMPLE, easy, obvious explanations in
> this entire EMF matter.....I advise the same to others....(Usually, it is
> members of the "vested interest" electrical community who provide those
> "simple, easy, obvious" answers.)......WE STILL DO NOT KNOW
> EXACTLY WHAT CHARACTERISTIC(S) OF THE EMF FIELD ARE TO
> BLAME......guru.....
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:07:10
> From: "Richard W. Woodley"
> To: "Roy L. Beavers"
> Subject: Re: (Philips) EMF's and Fluoroscent Lights (fwd)
>
> This is probably way too simple to work but can you do that by just
> reversing the tubes or is it more complicated - if so how do you know which
> way is which?
>
> At 01:41 24/11/98 -0600, you wrote:
> >
> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:34:02
> >From: Alasdair Philips
> >To: "Roy L. Beavers"
> >Cc: Sheila
> >Subject: (Ross)(Philips) EMF's and Fluoroscent Lights (fwd)
> >
> >
> >ps Ed Maxey's note on reversing the polarity of tubes in dual tube
> >fittings is MOST interesting and helpful (as usual from his input).
> >I will carry out some tests to see what difference this makes to
> >the EMF E-field readings. Thanks, Ed.
> >Sometimes the simplest things need vision to be recognised!
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >Alasdair Philips (aphilips@gn.apc.org)
> >Director, UK Powerwatch,
> >EMC Engineer and EMF-bioeffects researcher
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ********************* Richard W. Woodley *********************
> woodley@igs.net *********** http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ab190/
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