Subject:  Re Sleeping grounded study (Ober)(Weller).
Date:     Thu, 09 Nov 2000 105135 -0600
From:     Roy Beavers 
To:       guru 
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Subject: Re: Sleeping grounded study (Ober).....
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 08:14:00 -0800
From: rweller@h-e.com (Robert D. Weller, Hammett & Edison, Inc.)
Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.
To: roy@emfguru.com

Roy,

Coincidentally, there is a related article in the current (no pun intended)
issue of Bioelectromagnetics (v. 21, No. 7, Oct. 2000), "The Possible Role of
Contact Current in Cancer Risk Associated with Residential Magnetic Fields,"
by R. Kavet, L.E. Zaffanella, J.P. Daigle, and K.L. Ebi.  The authors are with
either EPRI or Enertech Consultants.  The paper presents data suggesting that
the minute currents flowing through the body from contact with appliances may
be relevant to a relationship of power lines with childhood leukemia.

Looks like an interesting read.

Bob Weller


On Thu, Nov 9, 2000, 5:38:15 AM Roy Beavers wrote:

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>Date:  Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:08:07 -0700
>From:  "clint a ober" 
>To:  "Roy Beavers" 
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> Think I used the wrong address first time, try again-clint-----Original
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>From: clint a ober 
>To: Roy Beavers 
>Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 3:07 PM
>Subject: sleeping grounded study
> Just yesterday I found that my study regarding personal grounding was posted
on your site
>along with comments from others. I found the comments to be quite
interesting, but somewhat
>disturbing in that no one commented on the health aspects. However, the pads
we used were
>protected from an electrical event in that the pads were made from UL
approved ESD fabric
>with a .0025 mA surface resistance and the ground wire was additionally
protected with a
>.00625 mA fuse. Also the pad was placed under the bottom sheet. What the pad
did was to
>create a ground plane in the bed. I sense that many folks concerned about
EMFs are unaware of
>what a ground plane is and how it works. For now that is not my concern, but
this is: EMFs
>are not the only electricity stressing the body. With loss of natural ground
contact by
>humans in the modern world the body is also now being stressed by its own
bio-electricity.
>Here is a major new discovery. When a human is grounded with just physical
contact at a beach
>1+ miles from the nearest electrical transmission line, the body itself draws
a flow of
>approx.. 750 mV of negative ions from the earth. This can only occur if there
is a flow of
>750 mV of positive ions on the body coming from another source.With no EMFs
being present on
>the body the flow of positive ions can only be coming from one of two
sources, the body
>itself [CNS etc.]or space or both. The fact that this flow is continuous and
occurring
>naturally implies that throughout 200 million years of evolution, being
grounded played a
>major role in how the body neutralizes bio-electricity and protects itself
from extraneous
>electrical influences. Do modern insulative shoes, carpets and living
environments effect
>natural health? Does loss of ground allow EMFs to electrify the body? Are
there other
>underlying stress factor that are being missed by the scientific community in
the study of
>the biological effects from exposure to electricity? The purpose of the study
and the
>surfacing of this information was to raise a flag suggesting to the sometimes
confused
>scientific community and a world of stressed folks in ill health that
something fundamental
>has change in the body, we are now disconnected from our 200 million year old
natural
>bioelectical protection system and have now allowed the body to become
electrified by both
>our own bioelectricity and EMFs. Also to provide what may be a cause for the
hundreds of ill
>health conditions that are currently listed as unknown, like a host of auto
immune diseases
>etc, etc, etc. Back to the real world, got to go round up a herd of cows,
love your site,
>anything I can do to help out let me know. Best, Clint


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