Subject:  Re Sleeping grounded study (Ober).
Date:     Thu, 09 Nov 2000 073333 -0600
From:     Roy Beavers 
To:       guru 
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Subject: Fw: sleeping grounded study
   Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:08:07 -0700
   From: "clint a ober" 
     To: "Roy Beavers" 

 Think I used the wrong address first time, try again-clint-----Original Message-----
From: clint a ober 
To: Roy Beavers 
Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 3:07 PM
Subject: sleeping grounded study
 Just yesterday I found that my study regarding personal grounding was posted on your site
along with comments from others. I found the comments to be quite interesting, but
somewhat disturbing in that no one commented on the health aspects. However, the pads we
used were protected from an electrical event in that the pads were made from UL approved
ESD fabric with a .0025 mA surface resistance and the ground wire was additionally
protected with a .00625 mA fuse. Also the pad was placed under the bottom sheet. What the
pad did was to create a ground plane in the bed. I sense that many folks concerned about
EMFs are unaware of what a ground plane is and how it works. For now that is not my
concern, but this is: EMFs are not the only electricity stressing the body. With loss of
natural ground contact by humans in the modern world the body is also now being stressed
by its own bio-electricity. Here is a major new discovery. When a human is grounded with
just physical contact at a beach 1+ miles from the nearest electrical transmission line,
the body itself draws a flow of approx.. 750 mV of negative ions from the earth. This can
only occur if there is a flow of 750 mV of positive ions on the body coming from another
source.With no EMFs being present on the body the flow of positive ions can only be coming
from one of two sources, the body itself [CNS etc.]or space or both. The fact that this
flow is continuous and occurring naturally implies that throughout 200 million years of
evolution, being grounded played a major role in how the body neutralizes bio-electricity
and protects itself from extraneous electrical influences. Do modern insulative shoes,
carpets and living environments effect natural health? Does loss of ground allow EMFs to
electrify the body? Are there other underlying stress factor that are being missed by the
scientific community in the study of the biological effects from exposure to
electricity? The purpose of the study and the surfacing of this information was to raise a
flag suggesting to the sometimes confused scientific community and a world of stressed
folks in ill health that something fundamental has change in the body, we are now
disconnected from our 200 million year old natural bioelectical protection system and have
now allowed the body to become electrified by both our own bioelectricity and EMFs. Also
to provide what may be a cause for the hundreds of ill health conditions that are
currently listed as unknown, like a host of auto immune diseases etc, etc, etc. Back to
the real world, got to go round up a herd of cows, love your site, anything I can do to
help out let me know. Best, Clint

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Fw: sleeping grounded study
Date:  Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:08:07 -0700
From:  "clint a ober" <CLINTOBER@prodigy.net>
To:  "Roy Beavers" <roy@emfguru.com>

 Think I used the wrong address first time, try again-clint-----Original Message-----
From: clint a ober <CLINTOBER@prodigy.net>
To: Roy Beavers <rovbeavers@emfguru.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 3:07 PM
Subject: sleeping grounded study
 Just yesterday I found that my study regarding personal grounding was posted on your site along with comments from others. I found the comments to be quite interesting, but somewhat disturbing in that no one commented on the health aspects. However, the pads we used were protected from an electrical event in that the pads were made from UL approved ESD fabric with a .0025 mA surface resistance and the ground wire was additionally protected with a .00625 mA fuse. Also the pad was placed under the bottom sheet. What the pad did was to create a ground plane in the bed. I sense that many folks concerned about EMFs are unaware of what a ground plane is and how it works. For now that is not my concern, but this is: EMFs are not the only electricity stressing the body. With loss of natural ground contact by humans in the modern world the body is also now being stressed by its own bio-electricity. Here is a major new discovery. When a human is grounded with just physical contact at a beach 1+ miles from the nearest electrical transmission line, the body itself draws a flow of approx.. 750 mV of negative ions from the earth. This can only occur if there is a flow of 750 mV of positive ions on the body coming from another source.With no EMFs being present on the body the flow of positive ions can only be coming from one of two sources, the body itself [CNS etc.]or space or both. The fact that this flow is continuous and occurring naturally implies that throughout 200 million years of evolution, being grounded played a major role in how the body neutralizes bio-electricity and protects itself from extraneous electrical influences. Do modern insulative shoes, carpets and living environments effect natural health? Does loss of ground allow EMFs to electrify the body? Are there other underlying stress factor that are being missed by the scientific community in the study of the biological effects from exposure to electricity? The purpose of the study and the surfacing of this information was to raise a flag suggesting to the sometimes confused scientific community and a world of stressed folks in ill health that something fundamental has change in the body, we are now disconnected from our 200 million year old natural bioelectical protection system and have now allowed the body to become electrified by both our own bioelectricity and EMFs. Also to provide what may be a cause for the hundreds of ill health conditions that are currently listed as unknown, like a host of auto immune diseases etc, etc, etc. Back to the real world, got to go round up a herd of cows, love your site, anything I can do to help out let me know. Best, Clint   --------------F240E98B16021EB2B8F4C622-- Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.emfguru.com