Subject: (Curry) Re PAVE PAWS and Conclusive proof..... (fwd) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 095504 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org> To: emfguru <rbeavers@llion.org> -------------------------------------------------- Hi everybody: ......In his informative message below, Bill recites (for the umpteenth time) the melatonin research story -- which this group has heard many times, and knows well (presumably!!!). He is correct, however, that NIEHS and the EMF RAPID (Minneapolis) working group are treating it as non-existent???? I believe they do this because to acknowledge its validity in any way is to acknowledge the possiblity of at least one "mechanism." To admit the possiblity of a mechanism (of bioeffects) would undercut their overall position that the EMF health hazard is 'bogus' or only "possible" -- rather than "probable." You may recall that within the past week, I referred to the fact that NIEHS was ignoring this melatonitn aspect -- even though it has been replicated three times. That started something of an argument as to whether or not I should have used "replicated" or "confirmed." It doesn't matter which word -- "replicateed" or "confirmed" -- is used, the bottom line is that this is another of those ***important pieces of EMF health hazard evidence*** about which our government is LIEING.... No, they don't consider it a lie!.... But then you have to start from their perspective of what is "allowable" in U.S. "governmentese" ... in keeping with the standard that has been set by our President....guru.... (By the way, Bill, I suspect that ***I know*** who it was you talked to in Tucson about this......He is with the government ... one of those RICH health bureaucracies........Anyway, many thanks for your message....guru.....) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 09:37:30 -0600 From: "Bill P. Curry"To: "Roy L. Beavers" Subject: Re: PAVE PAWS and Conclusive proof..... Roy, I took great interest in the posted item about the Cape Cod Pave Paws phased array radar system. When in San Francisco recently, my wife and I met Peter Bye and his wife, who have suffered greatly from the apparent effects of being in the line of sight of a Pave Paws institution at an Air Force Base in the Sacramento Valley. The Bye's live in a mountaintop community on the Mendocino coast. (At least they did at the time we met them. I have heard that they are moving, and I think that is wise.) In spite of the fact that Mr. Bye has experienced a range of ES symptoms and their two children (now essentially grown) both experienced childhood leukaemia and one has had a brain tumor removed, they are so far away from the radar that the Califorinia Health Dept. says they are too far away to experience any effects. I speculate that they are feeling effects of atmospheric and suspended particle generated scatter from the radar beam, as their elevation is 3,000 feet, and the radar's elevation is about 100 ft. The radar beam is supposed to be far overhead. Further, I suspect that, with the emergence of many new troublespots in the world and technologically advancing new potential enemies, the radar's primary sweep region is being aimed differently than in the cold war days - possibly making it go nearer the horizon than in the cold war days. Perhaps more pertinent: I talked with an individual from NIOSH at the Tucson meeting about the Pave Paws problem. I told him about the problems the Bye's and their neighbors have experienced and asked him whether NIOSH could take on the DoD. Although he said no, he added something interesting. He said that environmental causes had fairly well been eliminated from consideration of the symptoms the people near the radar in Cape Cod had experienced, and he said that the only possible cause left is the radar itself. Whether this indicates that NIOSH, EPA, or the DoD will now investigate the health effects of the radar I don't know, but at least they can't ignore it! Something else that may be significant: Four of the papers at Tucson indicated that EMF can block the protective effects of both melatonin and tamoxifen in guarding against breast cancer. This was a cooperative effort from Blackman at EPA Labs, Libudy at Lawrence Berkeley National Lab., Luben at University of California - Riverside, and Morris at Batelle Pacific Northwest National Lab. Except for minor differences these four labs REPLICATED each other's results. Since the main scientific community has been reluctant to accept results of EMF-Health studies, I think these results are highly significant! The connection between this series of studies and the Pave Paws problems is not clear, because these investigations were carried out with 12 milligauss, 60 Hz sinusoidal magnetic fields. In all cases the ability of melatonin and tamoxifen to inhibit breast cancer cell growth was blocked by application of the AC magnetic fields. To me, this series of experiments was a convincing demonstration of the scientific validity of the field of bioelectromagnetics in general and emf related health effects in particular. Also, I suspect that it relates to the breast cancer incidence in the Cape Cod near the radar installation, but how to establish that connection I don't know. -- ---- Bill P. Curry, Ph.D. |Physics is fun. 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