Subject: (Fist) (Curry) (Burmaster) cell-phones modus operandi (fwd) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 053414 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org> To: emfguru <rbeavers@llion.org> -------------------------------------------------- ......Stewart, WTR has built its (dubious) reputation by NOT answering inquiries.......Ask Louis Slesin.......Still, the American "press" treats them as if they were a legitimate scientific institution...... What you say here, Stewart, is quite interesting......Can you provide more documantation?......guru....... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:06:56 +1000 From: Stewart FistTo: "Roy L. Beavers" Subject: Re: (Curry) (Burmaster) cell-phones modus operandi (fwd) The recent discussion about arms-length earphone radiation, etc. reminded me about one of the very early discussions on another forum about GSM phones and their propensity (supposedly) to set off car air-bags. BMW and Mercedes supposedly had a number of these in about 1992-3, although they denied them. However they added a disclaimer in their car manuals saying don't use a handheld in the car, use only a fitted car phone. One German cellphone radio design engineer involved in the discussion decided to test the level of emissions at the steering wheel (the detonator point) and at the trigger mechanism (usually under the seat at that time). He measured both his GSM handheld and his installed car phone, and then announced to the group that the car phone put out a higher level inside the car than the handset - despite the fact that it had a roof-top antenna. The explanation was that the radiation came from the microphone lead, and in those days the car-phones put out between 5 and 20 watts (I think this one was a 5 watt). The power was radiating from the earthed cable shield. It might be worthwhile for someone to put a meter over some of the present car-phone units and see if the mike leads act like an antenna still. When the WTR funded a major project comparing the statistical incidence of handheld owners with brain tumours to car-phone users (hoping to prove there was no difference, and therefore no R/F implication) I wrote to them pointing out this fact -- then heard nothing more about the epidemological research. Does anyone know what happened to this project? And has anyone ever heard anything more about occasional air-bag blowouts when a phone is being used. The consensus of opinion at the time was that these were caused by bad contacts on the detonator (acting as a diode), not at the trigger (which could be shielded). -- Stewart Fist - writer and columnist See http://www.newsit.com.au/index_opinion.htm http://www.abc.net.au/http/sfist/ (some archives) http://www.electric-words.com (main archives) 70 Middle Harbour Road, Lindfield, 2070, N.S.W, Australia Phone +61 2 9416 7458 Fax +61 2 9416 4582 Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html