Subject: (Sastre) RE ABC's cut at the NIEHS EMF report.... (fwd) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 061552 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org> To: emfguru@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- Hi everybody: Over the weekend, I posted a report about the recent NIEHS working group study results that had been published on the internet by ABC news. Dr. Anthony (Tony) Sastre was quoted in that report -- not exactly accurately, as he recounts below..... I am pleased to be able to set the record straight here..... Cheerio..... Roy Beavers (EMFguru) rbeavers@llion.org..............http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html ................................It is better to light a single candle ... than to curse the darkness............................................... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:37:44 -0500 From: Antonio SastreTo: "'Roy L. Beavers'" Cc: "PDepippo@aol.com" Subject: RE: ABC's cut at the NIEHS EMF report.... (fwd) Roy, and Mr. de Pippo: The problem with the press is that they seldom get things right. This is how the interview went: 1. The reporter asked me at one point, during the second time he called, to discuss hypothetical biophysical mechanisms. 2. I mentioned voltage changes leading to opening or closing of voltage-sensitive ion channels. 3. He then asked me how that could affect tissues or organs other than brain or heart. 4. I pointed out that virtually all tissues in the body have voltage-gated ion channels. 5. He then pressed me for a demonstration of that working in EMF research. 6. My reply was that NO DEMONSTRATIONS of that mechanism had been made, but that it was biophysically plausible. 7. He further pressed me for how this could, even hypothetically, affect body functions. 8. I narrated this biophysically plausible HYPOTHESIS about the pancreas, insulin release, etc. I STRESSED to him that scientists find it very easy to come up with plausible scenarios, and the hard work was to prove that those scenarios did or did not exist. Clearly, he chose to quote part of what I told him, and igonored all the warnings that I had given him, as he had asked, plausible scenarios. I regret that he mislead many of his readers, including the two of you. Cordially, Tony Sastre -------------------------------------- Antonio Sastre, Ph.D. Senior Advisor Health Assessment & Research Center Midwest Research Institute 425 Volker Blvd. Kansas City, MO 64110 (816)-753-7600 (x1157 - voice) (816)-753-7380 (fax) ASastre@MRIresearch.org On Saturday, October 03, 1998 9:44 AM, Roy L. Beavers [SMTP:rbeavers@llion.org] wrote: > Tony: > > A question from one of my EMF-L members..... > > Roy Beavers (EMFguru) > rbeavers@llion.org..............http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html > ................................It is better to light a single candle ... > than to curse the darkness............................................... > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:39:42 EDT > From: PDepippo@aol.com > To: rbeavers@llion.org > Cc: surbeck@server.pingnet.ch > Subject: Re: ABC's cut at the NIEHS EMF report.... > > Dr. Sastre, > > Thank you for defending the EMR health concern. Below is an excerpt from the > ABC article concerning the pancreas. Where can I find this study? I have the > NIEHS report on CD-ROM and found no mention of it!!!! > > Regards, > > Peter de Pippo > > > In a message dated 98-10-03 07:29:47 EDT, you write: > > << Another possibility is that electrical currents induced by an > external magnetic field can actually disrupt the body's > physiological circuitry by causing the ion channels > within a cell to open and close when they shouldn't. An EMF-induced > current, for instance, might be able to tell the pancreas to secrete > insulin when none is actually needed. Still, says Sastre, We have > absolutely no credible theory to rationalize, let alone explain, why > this could happen. >> Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html