Subject:  (High) RE What's ES???? (fwd)
Date:     Wed, 30 Sep 1998 043157 -0500 (CDT)
From:     "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org>
To:       emfguru@hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:36:48 +0200
From: "High, Ingrid" 
To: "'Roy L. Beavers'" 
Subject: RE: What's ES???? (fwd)

Dear Roy,
good question. Here in Scandinavia it has now at least been put out
information from the authorities that patients claiming to be
electro-sensitive should be treated as if they are physically ill (as
opposed to mentally as tended to be the practise earlier!!) - and thus
not fall outside the social security system (as they often do today
unless they lie). But the cause and effect is not accepted.

There are two sides to the actual reaction,

One is with definite changes in the exposed parts of the body (obviously
often the face and front when working with computers) - where definite
changes in the skin are observable. They both can be seen by an observer
(redness and irritation) and they can be seen microscopically. - It is
important to not allow this one to be the determining factor (it would
be like the medical authorities deciding that mercury (from amalgam) is
harmless because there are so few who have allergic reactions to it -
completely disregarding its toxic side).

But the other, the general systemic effect is more difficult to classify
- but here others than me most likely with good ideas. Has any work been
done in Sweden on this? Could one way to go be to put together many
case-histories to see if there are any common denominators? (like was
done in Fibromyalgia).

- but there is one difficulty here. Some illnesses are classified
according to the cause of it - but most illnesses are classified
according to having a unique set of symptoms. It is the latter which
might be the problem.

with warm greetings,
Ingrid High

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Roy L. Beavers [SMTP:rbeavers@llion.org]
>Sent:	Monday, September 28, 1998 4:26 PM
>To:	emfguru@hotmail.com
>Subject:	What's ES???? (fwd)
>
>
>
>.......True.  True.  True.......I agree.  It IS incumbent upon this
>important segment of the EMF research community to provide an empirical
>basis for this medical condition.....  What we now have ... is decidedly
>amorphous.....  Can we begin to articulate (and agree upon) some precision
>in this ... "ES"???.....guru.....
>
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:07:38 -0500
>From: Edward Maxey 
>To: "Roy L. Beavers" 
>Subject: What's ES
>
>Hello Roy,
>
>A number of your recent emailings have dealt with "ES."
>Apparently this is intended to mean Electo-Sensitivity.  If
>so what is electro-sensitivity?
>
>It is safe to say that just about every disease known to man now
>has a code.  Medical insurance requires it.  The coding clerk in a 
>Veterans Administration hospital was contacted last week.  He 
>indicated that there is no code for electro-sensitivity or 
>magneto-sensitivity in the current ICD9 Coding Manual put 
>out by St. Anthony, effective through 10/1/98.
>
>It seems to me that a valuable service will have been rendered if 
>a group of your listees could reach a consensus on just what
>electro-sensitivity consists of.  Until we know what we are talking
>about are we not mostly just tilting at windmills?
>
>Such a consensus just might, eventually, evoke a recognition of
>this entity by the planet's medical establishment.
>
>Cordially,
>Ed



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