Subject: BSE/Science/Clinton (fwd) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 114224 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roy L. Beavers" <rbeavers@llion.org> To: emfguru@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:11:28 From: Alasdair PhilipsTo: "Roy L. Beavers" Subject: BSE/Science/Clinton Roy Thank you for posting (and appreciating!) my long email yesterday. I have not copied it all below as the file was getting rather long, but I do want to respond to these two paragraphs positively - and agree that, yes, probably the best for all is for Clinton to resign and quietly work to redeem himself. Also I add something more about BSE for non-EU readers, and compare it to cell-phones and asbestos. -------------------------------- >Now, Alasdair, do you remember the Profumo scandal? If you do, you'll >recognize why I ask. It was remarkably close to the Lewinsky scandal >was it not? Except that it also had an element of foreign intrigue. >(A Soviet Naval Attache was "sharing" the same girl -- such a job as I >once had, Naval Attache that is....) >So, then, how did it come out? Profumo resigned, didn't he?! -- For >the good of the party and for the good of the country..... Clinton >will HAVE to do the same! --------------------------------- Yes, I am old enough (just) to remember the Profumo affair in 1963 (I was 12 then) and the outraged indignation of my parents and their friends - even if I was not sure what prostitutes actually were! (Mandy Rice-Davis and Cristine Keeler, I think, even their names stuck in my memory it seems). John Profumo also owned and charged high rents for run-down city apartments. He resigned and I think went to prison for a while. Anyway the positive side came out later when he devoted the rest of his life working for poor and disadvantaged people in East London. His later actions (which recieved virtually no publicity or public thanks) far more than compensated for his earlier behaviour - so I am sure that 'redemption' (whatever that is) really can be earned. Lets hope Billy does likewise - however unlikely! ---------------- In yesterday's email from me I talked about BSE sort-of assuming everybody knew about it - we do, this side of the pond! Anyway, thanks for saying it was "mad cow disease" which was (officially) caused by making cattle into cannibals by feeding them processed dead cows as high concentrate protein (what a crazy, crazy, world). This wasn't cheap-jack companies trying to make a fast buck - the process was suggested by the UK Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food as a way of (a) getting rid of an unwanted waste meat products and (b) providing a very cheap source of easy to digest protein. In fact there is good evidence (denied by MAFF and the Government) that feeding dead cows to other cows is only part of the problem. Our cattle are compulsorily painted with an organophoshate pesticide each year to prevent "warble fly" attacks - these flies lay their eggs under the skin of the cattle beast and develop inside. There is some good evidence that this OP (remember the OP 'Gulf-War syndrome!! - same chemicals!) treatment is an important BSE trigger in activating the prion proteins. Anyway, I said in my earlier email that in 1995 we had 6 identified cases (deaths) of new-varient human CJD ("mad human disease") which were strongly linked to eating BSE meat products. We now have 27 identified cases. Old-fashioned CJD usually takes over 30 years to develop in the human brain before it is recognised and so it is a disease of the over 50's. We now have 27 confirmed cases of nvCJD in about 10 years. The big, completely unknown fact, is: are we seeing the tip of an enormous epidemic which will only start to be truely seen in ten to twenty years time? And does this remind you of my (and others) predictions of an epidemic of cell-phone related illnesses again in a similar time scale? Asbestos was banned in most Western countries over 20 years ago. Deaths from mesothelioma (a lung cancer solely caused by inhalation of asbestos fibres) are expected to peak in the year 2020.......... Alasdair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Alasdair Philips (aphilips@gn.apc.org) Director, UK Powerwatch, EMC Engineer and EMF-bioeffects researcher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------------------------------------------------------------- Many thanks, Alasdair, for that fine endorsement of (actually) why I started EMF-L -- because I saw that the science was well ahead of the political machinery in recognizing and reacting to the EMF hazard. EMF-L regards its mission as: to overcome that political/industry BIAS against the truth (which is also prostituting science itself) ... and SOMEHOW to get the EMF 'truth' (in so far as we can identify it, accurately and without the filter of government/industry dissembling) out to the public...... That's why I say that the truthfullness (or UNtruthfullness) of our government at ALL levels, including the RICH health bureaucracies, IS IMPORTANT to the outcome of the EMF saga..... The Clinton-Lewinsky affair provides us a good opportunity to make that point..... * * * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Alasdair Philips (aphilips@gn.apc.org) Director, UK Powerwatch, EMC Engineer and EMF-bioeffects researcher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Archive provided courtesy of WaveGuide, http://www.wave-guide.org Reprinted with permission of Roy Beavers, http://www.feb.se/EMF-L/EMF-L.html