Subject:  Is there an EMF connection with CFS? (Maisch)...
Date:     Tue, 7 Sep 1999 194340 -0500 (CDT)
From:     "Roy L. Beavers" 
To:       emfguru 
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Don:

Can you "tie" any of the following to reputable scientific or medical
research????

Is CFS, itself, a bona fide diagnosable condition?  How about EHS?
What is it, actually, in bona fide scientific or medical terms....

Cheerio.....

Roy Beavers (EMFguru)......
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:06:29 +1000
From: Don Maisch 
To: "Roy L. Beavers" 
Subject: Is there an EMF connection with CFS?

Dear Roy

Thanks for your reply but I have to dissagree with you about your
statement: " there is not yet sufficient basis for the CFS [and EMF]
subject matter". This same claim is also leveled at Electromagnetic
HyperSensitivity (EHS) and I think it is time we examine this very subject
carefully and not dismiss this topic without carefully considering the
facts.

The term CFS is a catch-all  label used to describe a debilitating illness,
THE CAUSE OF WHICH IS STILL UNKNOWN. Diagnosis is done largely by exclusion
of other possible diseases. Since EHS is largely unknown to the vast
majority of doctors working with CFS diagnosed patients, it is not even
considered as a possible factor. With CFS we basically have a severly
dysfunctional immune system which has been adversely effected by an unknown
stressor, which in the majority of cases may be viral but most importantly
may also be from environmental factors as well.

The role  of EMFs as a possible risk factor  for some cases of diagnosed
CFS  is examined in our jointly written paper, " Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
(CFS) - Is  prolonged exposure to environmental level powerline frequency
magnetic fields a co- factor to consider in treatment?" .  This was
published in the Journal of The Australasian College of Nutritional and
Environmental Medicine ( ACNEM ), Vol. 17 No. 2; Dec. 1998. This paper is
on my web site at: <  http://www.tassie.net.au/emfacts/cfs-paper.html   >

Additionally, working with the ACNEM group I am continuing to investigate
the possible EMF connection with  a range of immune system effects, not
just CFS, and have an ongoing paper on this which can be read at:
<  http://www.tassie.net.au/emfacts/case-studies.html   >

Please have a look  on page 252-253 in Robert Becker's book "CROSS
CURRENTS" to see what Dr. Becker says about CFS and EMF exposure.

To dismiss the possible role of EMF exposure in an immune system disease
such as CFS and refuse to list messages on this issue because you
personally don't think there is enough evidence does not stand up to
critical examination.

I  am now of the opinion that for people who are having immune system
related health problems attributed to EMF exposure (considering EMF
exposure as a possible immune system stressor), they should not be put into
the CFS "category". To do so is to mis-diagnose their problem which should
more accurately be calssified as EHS.

The problem in Australia and elsewhere, is that since  the condition of EHS
is unknown to the vast majority of medical practitioners, patients who are
having EHS symptoms are mostly categorised as having CFS since the symptone
are similar.  However some of the apparent differences noted to date are:

EHS patients tend to report a gradual decline in health without the
characteristic initial onset of flu-like symptoms, characteristic of CFS.

With EHS patients they tend to have low iron levels / anemia.

With EHS when  their EMF exposure is removed or reduced, they tend to
recover, depending upon the duration of previous exposure.

CFS patients tend to have vivid dreams whereas EHS patients tend not
remember any dreaming.

(This is very preliminary at the moment.)

With further research it may be possible to  develop a list of symptoms
characteristic for immune system dysfunction related to excessive EMF
exposure. Such a list  would allow doctors working with CFS patients to
identify which of their patients may actually have EHS.  Once identified,
steps can be made to identify  and reduce their exposures, as well as using
specific medical treatment for EHS.

I request that this be posted on your discussion group and I hope that
reader's comments will be forthcoming.

Regards

Don Maisch


>Don:
>
>I feel that there is not yet sufficient scientific basis for the
>CFS subject matter.....  One of the "charges" we have to guard against
>is the charge that "the EMF activists see a connection with every
>ailment in our society."
>
>Perhaps the CFS connection is valid, but we have not yet established
>a credible basis for saying so....
>
>Cordially,

>Guru.....



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