Subject: Physicist "doubts" any risk from microwaves (Karow)...
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 073201 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Roy L. Beavers"
To: emfguru
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Hans:
When one receives his PhD in physics, it is part of the 'rite of
initiation' that he vow never to find fault with the health risks of
non-ionizing radiation.....
Roy Beavers (EMFguru)......
rbeavers@llion.org.......
.....It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness.....
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:28:34 -0700
From: Hans Karow
To: "'rbeavers@llion.org'"
Subject: FW: FW: Microwave (cell phone) risk!? Urgent news from Sweden (Guru)...
Dear Roy,
I have been corresponding with a doctor of physicist for a few months
within another subject.
I mentioned to him the possible dangers involved with cellular phone
microwaves and he does not share our concern. I must admit that I did not
send him enough emf-info yet (due to other issues we were/are involved
with), but I could not resist to send him your recent message (see below).
Here is his response and since I am not a physicist I can not answer his
question. Is there anyone within the emf-guru list who could help me out
and at the same time explain it in "Dummy" language?
Thanks, Hans.
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: September 16, 1999 4:18 PM
To: Hans Karow
Cc: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: FW: Microwave (cell phone) risk!? Urgent news from Sweden
(Guru)...
Hello Hans,
thank you for the quote. Unfortunately, important data is missing: The
article quotes an intensity (0.1 to 1 mW), but doesn't say, on which area
this intensity should be applied. To give an example of what I mean: 1 mW
of LASER light can severely damage an eye, if the LASER is pointed
directly into the eye, where it is focussed by the lens. On the other
hand, hundreds of thousands of milliwatts of normal (or LASER) light won't
harm you, if they just hit your skin...
So, was the 0.1 mW quoted below focussed on a single cell? I am sure,
that that much energy on a single cells gives a *lot* of harm. But no
cell phone is even close to generating so much energy output, that any
cell of the body will receive close to 0.1 mW: The brain has 10^14 nerve
cells alone, so 0.1 mW per nerve cell would equal 10 Billion watts, the
output of 10 large-scale power plants...
However, the 0.1 mW could also be the strength of the antenna used in the
experiment. Or it could be the amount of energy calculated to travel
through the brain of the mice. Or it could be the amount of energy
absorbed in the brain (most travels through and does not get absorbed).
There are even more alternatives possible.
Do you have a quote for the original work? I'd like to check that.
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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Hans Karow wrote:
> Dear xxxxx
> I just got the message below 'd like to share with you.
> You say, cell phones are safe and also safe lives (of others in life
> threatening accidents), yes, you are right! But at the same time cell
> phones eventually will kill you. Would you ever stuff your head in a
> microwave oven? No? But you almost do by using cell phones!
>
> Industry and governments are not telling the truth and protecting the
> people, they ONLYT protect $$$$$$ !
>
> Your and other's argument that cell phones save [others] lives is not
quite
> right and necessary: today people are relying/depending more and more on
> cell phones hence risking more than they normally should do. Road rage is
> another effect of electromagnetic pollution, nowadays people are becoming
> more and more agressive than defensively/politely/considerate as they
used
> to be 30, 40 or 50 years ago.
>
> Anyway, I thought it will interest you.
> Enjoy either the cell phone or the peace of not having a cell phone
> anymore.
> Hans.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy L. Beavers [SMTP:rbeavers@llion.org]
> Sent: September 15, 1999 11:40 AM
> To: emfguru
> Subject: Microwave (cell phone) risk!? Urgent news from Sweden (Guru)...
>
>
> .......One of our Swedish members (who routinely remains anonymous)
> has forwarded the following..... Perhaps we will also be hearing more
> of this from the Swedish Conference -- that starts tomorrow....
>
> Cheerio.....
>
> Roy Beavers (EMFguru)......
> rbeavers@llion.org.......
> ......It is better to light a single candle than to curse the
darkness.....
> EMF-L web-site can be found at:
> EMF-L archives can be found at:
> ...................PEOPLE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN PROFITS.............
.....
>
>
>
> Roy,
>
> The Swedish conservative newspaper "Svenska Dagbladet" today writes about
> new Swedish research confirming old results (E.g. Oscar et al, 1977!):
> Microwaves open up the Blood Brain Barrier.
>
> A team of researchers (Leif Salford, Arne Brun and Bertil Persson) at the
> University of Lund in Sweden have shown that the protein albumin leaks
> through the BBB of rats exposed to microwaves corresponding to those
> produced by a mobile phone.
>
> They have also shown that lower levels [of microwave energy] are more
> efficient: one tenthousandth to one thousandth of a Watt is sufficient to
> generate albumin leakage (do not know if lower levels where tested).
>
> "Radiation from the base stations of the mobile phone systems should
> therefore
> be enough to affect the brain. Even someone who is in the vicinity of a
> person making a call may be influenced by the radiation from the phone."
>
> This team is currently working with the US Air Force to investigate the
> Gulf War syndrome. The think that medication received to protect against
> nerve gas may have penetrated the BBB due to the exposure of microwaves.
>
> This very good article was written by the journalist:
> Ulrika Bjorksten (in case this doesn't display correctly on US computers
-
> Ulrika Bjorksten)
>
> Try to get US and UK news and papers in touch with her to get a full
> translation, or why not a full interview...
>
>
> *****************
>
>
>
Gru?e
Kai Petzke
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